And I can tell you that many, many protesters on both sides haven't read the bill either - I haven't read the whole thing - have you Foss? Republicans haven't read it as well... It gets snipped, synopses-ed, distilled and regurgitated like all bills do.
Umm...your logic fails when you consider that the people at the town hall meetings have read more than the very people that have pledged to vote on the bill. Again, THOSE PEOPLE WHO ARE SUPPOSED TO BE REPRESENTING THE CITIZENS HAVEN'T READ THE BILL. That's irresponsible and Congressional malpractice in the extreme. How in the world do you justify comparing citizens to those who supposedly represent them? And yet you try to equivocate. What an absurd joke your argument is.
Both sides are being whipped up into a frenzy by media and special interest groups, whether they are there because they are part of a union, or if they are there because they read something on Beck's website, they are all there because of polarizing factors which want to use those people who are at the town hall meetings.
Both sides haven't resorted to violence. Only YOUR side. Your side is being whipped into a frenzy by the White House astroturfing team. Our side is angry because of what THEY'VE READ IN THE BILL.
I went to a meeting Foss - I talked to people on both sides. Maybe you should go and get first hand opinion instead of having it filtered through whatever media group you follow.
Ad hominem and straw man. My coward Congressman, John Yarmuth (D) just announced today on the radio that he's cancelling his town hall meeting. I tried calling into the radio show but he scrammed as soon as he made the announcement. If the plan was SO GREAT, why wouldn't he want to sell it to his own constituents? So go pound sand.
One side get's emails from the DNC - the other side gets emails from 9-12.
What the hell are you talking about.
I, once again, think how the Dems are approaching this is very wrong. And now it has escalated to something that is way beyond what is healthy on either side. Discourse is fine, encouraged. But, when all you do is yell at each other, then nothing gets done.
Funny how during the Bush administration it was cool and patriotic to 'speak truth to power.' Now, however, according to YOUR Nancy Pelosi, it's 'Un-American.'
The people doing the yelling have a right to be angry when they get lied to right to their faces. When your Congressman lies to you, it becomes clear that listening to platitudes doesn't accomplish anything. The anger is righteous. Your side, on the other hand, has resorted to sending out 'brown shirts' to intimidate and beat people into submission. How's that Great Uniter? How's that Hope and Change working for you now?
Now, for the time being, nothing happening on the bill is a good thing. But, the issue has been poisoned, an issue that does need to be addressed. Both sides know that. The system isn't healthy and needs reform.
The only people poisoning the issue are your Dems, who are lying their asses off about the bill. Furthermore, if the system is SO BROKEN, as your Dear Leader Obama puts it, why is he then offering to 'allow' people to keep their own programs? That is a self contradiction and defies common sense.
However, there is a good chance that we will continue to limp along with a flawed and costly system, that will only get more costly, and the opportunity to create a better system will have passed us by.
Hahaha! The bill already proposed doesn't even take effect until 2013! So your 'sky is falling' approach fails as well. But now I wonder, fox. You sound like you're back on the 'we need to rush this thing through' bandwagon. Are you secretly in favor of this bill after all? And you think it's a better system than the one we have?
One of the main reasons the system is so costly is because of the drain on it by illegal aliens. But enacting a bill that will add $1 Trillion to the deficit while refusing to pay for the elderly is not even a solution - it's totalitarianism. Someone once said that there is no class of persons less qualified to run ANY industry than the political class, and that has proven to be true. You are stupid to believe that forcing me to pay for someone else's healthcare is somehow a better system than what we have now. You're pitching Hope but you're bait and switching it with Despair.
The congress was stupid (read Nancy) for trying to push this through before decent debate had occurred on it. It probably was at the direction of Obama - and I fault him as well.
They weren't being stupid. They knew nobody would like the bill, so they deliberately tried to sneak it through. They know that they can't be honest about their platform. Now they're sending people like Linda Douglass out to lie for them. It won't work either. How do you feel about your LYING Democrats in Congress and the White House? Do you not bear a sense of shame in electing such blatantly dishonest people?
If you haven't noticed - I am against this bill... I am not a robot, unlike your continued painting of me...
Ah, but you're still FOR the lying Democrats who dreamed up this monstrosity. And you undercut your own credibility when you mock the Republican alternative, which isn't as monstrous, all the while aware that the Democrat bill as written is an absolute disaster and a horrendous takeover of 1/6 of the economy.
