Traitor Kerry calls troops uneducated

[Calabrio]

That picture is great~

 

[FreeFaller]

Yup...just another "uneducated" servicemember

19-year-old Airman earns CCAF degree in 9 months

http://www.af.mil/news/story.asp?storyID=123030261

by Carl Bergquist
Air University Public Affairs

11/1/2006 - MAXWELL AIR FORCE BASE, Ala. (AFPN) -- At 19 years old, Senior Airman Sharon Hawley is the youngest of more than 9,100 graduates earning their degrees in October at the Community College of the Air Force here.

The integrated avionics mechanic, assigned to 412th Maintenance Squadron at Edwards Air Force Base, Calif., completed the prerequisites for her aviation technology degree in less than nine months.

"I began the course in March 2005 with credit for three classes from another school, took three classes at CCAF and CLEPed three classes," Airman Hawley said. "That allowed me to complete the course requirements by December 2005."

She said she was not familiar with the College Level Examination Program until she went to CCAF and found it very handy because it allowed her to finish her degree quickly.

Dr. James Larkin, CCAF director of institutional effectiveness, said Airman Hawley was not only the youngest graduate in her class, but is also one of the youngest graduates in the history of the college's more than 290,000 students.

"It's heartwarming to see someone her age take advantage of the opportunity to get their degree from CCAF," he said. "The school's average active duty graduate has been in the Air Force for 10.6 years when they get their degree, and the oldest graduate was 59 years old."

Airman Hawley works in an F-16A Fighting Falcon "back shop" avionics test station where she tests parts from F-16s and maintains the station. She said she joined the Air Force because she wanted to do something different.

"I went to a recruiter and six days later, I was on my way to basic training," the Airman said. "My job is very interesting and new for me. I never thought I would be doing anything like this."

Following approval of the concept in 1971 by then Air Force Chief of Staff, Gen. John Ryan, the Community College of the Air Force was established April 1, 1972. The school's vision is to be the foremost occupational education institution that prepares the world's best expeditionary-minded air, space and cyberspace enlisted leaders.

"CCAF was really helpful for me, and the people were very motivating," Airman Hawley said. "I was also able to earn my general education associates degree."

Students of CCAF complete about 1.6 million semester hours of course credit each year, and the school has a stake in the job knowledge and performance of every enlisted person in the Air Force. The average graduate is 33.5 years old, is a staff sergeant and majors in Aviation Technology Maintenance.

A two-year institution exclusively serving enlisted personnel, CCAF awards associate in applied science degrees after students successfully complete degree requirements. The Commission on Colleges of the Southern Association of Colleges and Schools accredits CCAF, through Air University, to award associates degrees.

 

[fossten]

Kerry '06

Dammit, Bryan, you beat me to it!

:lol:

 

[fossten]

19-year-old Airman earns CCAF degree in 9 months

http://www.af.mil/news/story.asp?storyID=123030261

by Carl Bergquist
Air University Public Affairs

11/1/2006 - MAXWELL AIR FORCE BASE, Ala. (AFPN) -- At 19 years old, Senior Airman Sharon Hawley is the youngest of more than 9,100 graduates earning their degrees in October at the Community College of the Air Force here.

The integrated avionics mechanic, assigned to 412th Maintenance Squadron at Edwards Air Force Base, Calif., completed the prerequisites for her aviation technology degree in less than nine months.

"I began the course in March 2005 with credit for three classes from another school, took three classes at CCAF and CLEPed three classes," Airman Hawley said. "That allowed me to complete the course requirements by December 2005."

She said she was not familiar with the College Level Examination Program until she went to CCAF and found it very handy because it allowed her to finish her degree quickly.

Dr. James Larkin, CCAF director of institutional effectiveness, said Airman Hawley was not only the youngest graduate in her class, but is also one of the youngest graduates in the history of the college's more than 290,000 students.

"It's heartwarming to see someone her age take advantage of the opportunity to get their degree from CCAF," he said. "The school's average active duty graduate has been in the Air Force for 10.6 years when they get their degree, and the oldest graduate was 59 years old."

Airman Hawley works in an F-16A Fighting Falcon "back shop" avionics test station where she tests parts from F-16s and maintains the station. She said she joined the Air Force because she wanted to do something different.

"I went to a recruiter and six days later, I was on my way to basic training," the Airman said. "My job is very interesting and new for me. I never thought I would be doing anything like this."

Following approval of the concept in 1971 by then Air Force Chief of Staff, Gen. John Ryan, the Community College of the Air Force was established April 1, 1972. The school's vision is to be the foremost occupational education institution that prepares the world's best expeditionary-minded air, space and cyberspace enlisted leaders.

"CCAF was really helpful for me, and the people were very motivating," Airman Hawley said. "I was also able to earn my general education associates degree."

Students of CCAF complete about 1.6 million semester hours of course credit each year, and the school has a stake in the job knowledge and performance of every enlisted person in the Air Force. The average graduate is 33.5 years old, is a staff sergeant and majors in Aviation Technology Maintenance.

A two-year institution exclusively serving enlisted personnel, CCAF awards associate in applied science degrees after students successfully complete degree requirements. The Commission on Colleges of the Southern Association of Colleges and Schools accredits CCAF, through Air University, to award associates degrees.

YEP. I CLEPPED 80 college credits when I was in the Army. Then I got out and finished part time with the GI Bill. Now I'm in law school.

 

[Joeychgo]

YEP. I CLEPPED 80 college credits when I was in the Army. Then I got out and finished part time with the GI Bill. Now I'm in law school.

Good for you! I really mean that.

 

[bufordtpisser]

Me huffing and puffing...................

Still huffing and puffing I see... Now were exactly do you see me "siding with traitors and others out to destroy our country"? I didn't watch the video, I miss-read what Fossten wrote and thought the article was the video in written format. I have now learned that Kerry did in fact imply that military personal are "uneducated" and that was a jackass move.

Actually, I rarely hang out in bars and I never pick fights, but I am more than willing to finish them when confronted, so your "picture" is incorrect.

The avatar is John Goodman from the movie "The Big Lebowski", watch it, you just might enjoy it.

I doubt it.
"Were exactly did he call the troops "uneducated"? He's attacking certain Republicans in the article, not the troops..."
By shooting off your mouth before you had the facts. That is where I see you siding with cowards and traitors. Anything that the traitor of all traitors says should automatically be put into question. It does not matter if he is Republican or Democrat, he was then and is now a traitor. You have to realize that the only reason that I rag on you is because if it is a democrat, no matter how bad, you defend them without getting the facts. If it is a repub, you jump on them and condemn them without getting all of the facts. Believe it or not, we may be very close in our beliefs, with the exception of judging people solely based on political affiliation.

And for the avatar, I know who it is and what it is from. I like John Goodman. And I like guns, and I like the freedom that I have to openly carry and conceal them.

 

[fossten]

You have to realize that the only reason that I rag on you is because if it is a democrat, no matter how bad, you defend them without getting the facts. If it is a repub, you jump on them and condemn them without getting all of the facts. Believe it or not, we may be very close in our beliefs, with the exception of judging people solely based on political affiliation.

BINGO! Good point Buford!

Still huffing and puffing I see... Now were exactly do you see me "siding with traitors and others out to destroy our country"? I didn't watch the video, I miss-read what Fossten wrote and thought the article was the video in written format. I have now learned that Kerry did in fact imply that military personal are "uneducated" and that was a jackass move.

Rush Limbaugh has made himself out to be an ass yet again, and Keith Olbermann covers it no less, I love it...

You're claiming that Olbermann speed up Rush? Okay, considering that is the truth, how does that exonerate Rush from being an ass for what he did? He still said and did what he did, play it in slow motion and it is still the same...

No, I never said Fox was untouchable, but Rush went about it the wrong way, he should have stuck to nit-picking what Fox said as truth/untruth, not act like some clown making fun of the physical limitations of a diseased stricken man...

I did not laugh about Rush's hearing loss back then, it was rumored that it was caused by his abusive-overuse of painkillers; I found that funny since he is the supposed anti-drug guy...

First, Fox doesn't take his meds so he can shake more and add melodrama to the add... When the facts come out the meds he takes actally causes the shaking, it gets switched to Fox overdosing for further effect... What a joke and Rush is as always a blowhard clown...

Did you miss the FACT that Rush didn't have his facts straight?

Contrast with:

Were[sic] exactly did he call the troops "uneducated"? He's attacking certain Republicans in the article, not the troops...

You are exactly right. Deville leaped on Rush's throat, and leaped to Kerry's defense, both times before he had all the facts.

*owned*

 

[TheDude]

I doubt it.
"Were exactly did he call the troops "uneducated"? He's attacking certain Republicans in the article, not the troops..."
By shooting off your mouth before you had the facts. That is where I see you siding with cowards and traitors. Anything that the traitor of all traitors says should automatically be put into question. It does not matter if he is Republican or Democrat, he was then and is now a traitor. You have to realize that the only reason that I rag on you is because if it is a democrat, no matter how bad, you defend them without getting the facts. If it is a repub, you jump on them and condemn them without getting all of the facts. Believe it or not, we may be very close in our beliefs, with the exception of judging people solely based on political affiliation.

And for the avatar, I know who it is and what it is from. I like John Goodman. And I like guns, and I like the freedom that I have to openly carry and conceal them.

Did you miss the thread where I thanked TommyB for setting it straight for me and (important part to follow) where I said I "misread" Fosstens post, I thought the written part was the same as the video and did not bother to watch it. So besides condemning me for making a simple honest mistake, what have you? Nothing. Also, asking a question is not necessarily 'jumping to ones defense' you chronic knee-jerker. As for your claim that I defend any Democrat no matter what, that is another load of #$@%.

 

[Marcus]

You have to realize that the only reason that I rag on you is because if it is a democrat, no matter how bad, you defend them without getting the facts. If it is a repub, you jump on them and condemn them without getting all of the facts. Believe it or not, we may be very close in our beliefs, with the exception of judging people solely based on political affiliation.

You realize, don't you, that the same holds true in the opposite direction?

While Kerry is indeed an idiot, he's not stupid enough to intentionally insult our troops. The explanation that it was a botched "joke" is absolutely plausible, considering how unfunny and awkward he is in general. I mean, come on. Do you REALLY believe he would say something that he knew would offend nearly everyone in the nation?

By the way, I am fully aware of what he said to Congress in the 70's so don't bother trying to educate me. That was indefensible. Still, I understand that you've all made up your minds about his remarks based on your own "facts", so I guess this is kind of pointless.

I suppose I'll be clumped in with the "traitors" now for "defending" him. I'm not. He's a moron. But all of this "outrage" over his remarks has all the hallmarks of being manufactured and reinforced by the right-wing media. Just like the left-wing media "outrage" over Foley and "Plamegate".

 

[TheDude]

BINGO! Good point Buford!

Contrast with:



You are exactly right. Deville leaped on Rush's throat, and leaped to Kerry's defense, both times before he had all the facts.

*owned*

What... you're playing cheerleader for Buford now? Good, it suits you well.

I did leap on Rush's throat because he is and has been proven to be the hypocritical blowhard douche bag. Asking a question is not necessarily jumping to ones defense, like Buford, you suffer from chronic knee-jerk syndrome. I also have explained why I asked the question; it was a mistake on my part where I misread your post. Sue me for punitive damages...

 

[TheDude]

You realize, don't you, that the same holds true in the opposite direction?

While Kerry is indeed an idiot, he's not stupid enough to intentionally insult our troops. The explanation that it was a botched "joke" is absolutely plausible, considering how unfunny and awkward he is in general. I mean, come on. Do you REALLY believe he would say something that he knew would offend nearly everyone in the nation?

By the way, I am fully aware of what he said to Congress in the 70's so don't bother trying to educate me. That was indefensible. Still, I understand that you've all made up your minds about his remarks based on your own "facts", so I guess this is kind of pointless.

I suppose I'll be clumped in with the "traitors" now for "defending" him. I'm not. He's a moron. But all of this "outrage" over his remarks has all the hallmarks of being manufactured and reinforced by the right-wing media. Just like the left-wing media "outrage" over Foley and "Plamegate".

It's really simple, if you do not think that Kerry is an America hating monster who wants nothing more than to bring down democracy and enslave all American's to "Islamo-Fascist" blood thirsty rulers then you're a traitor.

What the knee-jerkers fail to realize is Kerry is a Yale educated man and a successful politician, even if they despise him they cannot ignore that he isn't low-brow and he wouldn't (as you mentioned) intentionally piss off 90% of America and shoot his political career in the foot. He was/is a complete fool for the wording he chose to use and for giving the Rightwing spinners such ammo to use against him.

 

[biglou71]

No spin needed. He said it, and said he has nothing to appologize for. What Republican could spin it any better than he did to himself?

 

[TheDude]

No spin needed. He said it, and said he has nothing to appologize for. What Republican could spin it any better than he did to himself?

You for one since you're spinning it now. Kerry's own words were:

"I apologize to no one for my criticism of the president [not the troops] and of his broken policy."

& that it was...

"a botched joke about the president and the president's people, not about the troops ... and they know that's what I was talking about."

http://www.drudgereport.com/

 

[biglou71]

Actually, I think that was his 2nd or third apology.

here is another "apology"

As a combat veteran, I want to make it clear to anyone in uniform and to their loved ones: my poorly stated joke at a rally was not about, and never intended to refer to any troop.

I sincerely regret that my words were misinterpreted to wrongly imply anything negative about those in uniform, and I personally apologize to any service member, family member, or American who was offended.

It is clear the Republican Party would rather talk about anything but their failed security policy. I don’t want my verbal slip to be a diversion from the real issues. I will continue to fight for a change of course to provide real security for our country, and a winning strategy for our troops.

Looks to me like he just wants to blame the whole thing on Republican spin, not on what he actually said. He never apologizes for what he said... He just apologizes if YOU took it the wrong way.

What an ass.(Kerry not you)


And this is what he said today....

Kerry held to his position, however, that he would not apologize for the remark made to students in Seattle, Washington on Monday.

"I said it was a botched joke. Of course, I`m sorry about a botched joke. You think I love botched jokes? I mean, it`s pretty stupid," he told MSNBC television.

Kerry, who fought in the Vietnam War, has said his words were misinterpreted.

 

[fossten]

What... you're playing cheerleader for Buford now? Good, it suits you well.

I did leap on Rush's throat because he is and has been proven to be the hypocritical blowhard douche bag. [Bingo. You are always beholden to your predilection to bash a conservative first and ask questions later. It's sophomoric, as is your name-calling.] Asking a question is not necessarily jumping to ones defense, like Buford, you suffer from chronic knee-jerk syndrome. [Wrong. I just happen to be more up on the facts of current events than you. THAT is a fact. Let us not forget which one of us was the last person to post a thread about Bush's intellect that turned out to be a hoax. Hey, what a coincidence! Same subject. Wonder why that is? Are you aware that Kerry got worse grades in college than Bush?] I also have explained why I asked the question; it was a mistake on my part where I misread your post. Sue me for punitive damages...

And yet you continue to dig the hole deeper. I suppose next you'll call me a douchebag or something.

I have no problem admitting that I'm biased, but I do at least check my sources before commenting. Better not to comment than to open your mouth and then have to backtrack. But I guess I can't relate to what it must be like for you.

 

[TheDude]

Bingo. You are always beholden to your predilection to bash a conservative first and ask questions later. It's sophomoric, as is your name-calling

Wrong. I just happen to be more up on the facts of current events than you. THAT is a fact. Let us not forget which one of us was the last person to post a thread about Bush's intellect that turned out to be a hoax. Hey, what a coincidence! Same subject. Wonder why that is? Are you aware that Kerry got worse grades in college than Bush

And yet you continue to dig the hole deeper. I suppose next you'll call me a douchebag or something.

I have no problem admitting that I'm biased, but I do at least check my sources before commenting. Better not to comment than to open your mouth and then have to backtrack. But I guess I can't relate to what it must be like for you.

Did you miss the part where I explained why I jumped on Rush's throat? Also, your lame attempt to link Rush with all conservatives and my "bashing" is what is truly immature.

You're bringing up one stupid post from over a year ago... Dig a little deeper Fossten, you may finally strike crude.

No, I would not call you a douche bag, I do not stoop (or try not too) to personal petty insults on fellow members.

Last time I checked, I admitted that I misread your original post and that is why I asked "where did Kerry insult the troops"... As it turns out, it was a botched joke (if you believe Kerry, I know you don't) and biased conservatives like yourself are running it through the mud for all it's worth. Can't blame you though, Kerry is a grown boy, he shouldn't have given you the ammo.

 

[MonsterMark]

Did you miss the thread where I thanked TommyB for setting it straight for me and (important part to follow) where I said I "misread" Fosstens post, I thought the written part was the same as the video and did not bother to watch it. So besides condemning me for making a simple honest mistake, what have you? Nothing. Also, asking a question is not necessarily 'jumping to ones defense' you chronic knee-jerker. As for your claim that I defend any Democrat no matter what, that is another load of #$@%.

I agree with Deville. Deville made a mistake and noted it. I give him a ton of credit for that. Plus, he is not a rubber stamp, imho, of Dims, although I admit to not knowing his voting record. He does appear to be more 'fair' on the subjects than most that would be considered 'from the left'. He has demonstrated a willingness to listen and adjusts his thinking based on the arguments. I'll add that I feel he stays true to his convictions, which I also commend.

 

[MonsterMark]

You realize, don't you, that the same holds true in the opposite direction?

While Kerry is indeed an idiot, he's not stupid enough to intentionally insult our troops. The explanation that it was a botched "joke" is absolutely plausible, considering how unfunny and awkward he is in general. I mean, come on. Do you REALLY believe he would say something that he knew would offend nearly everyone in the nation?

I disagree wholeheartedly.

You need to to listen to the 60 seconds of video before he 'flopped' his famous punch line.

His real joke was the line before delivered about Bush being formally from Texas.

The line in question, he clearly makes an attempt to be serious. He wanted to make an impact. Look at his voice deflections. It speaks volumes. Don't be fooled by this traitor. He is the biggest scum we have ever had on the American political scene, outside of his sidekick Kennedy.
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And do not trust YouTube. They are fast becoming another liberal media outlet, which is why I am considering doing a site exactly like theirs, with a conservative slant.

Try putting in a bunch of search terms about Kerry. You'll find all the videos that defend sKerry's comment.

 

[MonsterMark]

But all of this "outrage" over his remarks has all the hallmarks of being manufactured and reinforced by the right-wing media.

How wrong you are. Kerry did it all by himself and his press conference yesterday was the frosting on the cake.

He said what he believes. Just because it slipped out doesn't make it excuseable. Quit defending him. He is a loser. Just thank the Lord that he was defeated in 2004.

 

[MAC1]

Last time I checked, I admitted that I misread your original post and that is why I asked "where did Kerry insult the troops"... As it turns out, it was a botched joke (if you believe Kerry, I know you don't) and biased conservatives like yourself are running it through the mud for all it's worth. Can't blame you though, Kerry is a grown boy, he shouldn't have given you the ammo.

I would like to think he botched a “joke” but considering his history of bashing the military there is a good chance he said exactly what he believes.

Also, he didn’t attempted to correct his misstatement immediately after he allegedly botched the so-called “joke” to make clear he had no intention of saying what he apparently said. After hearing the tape it sounds to me that he said exactly what he wanted to say. In other words, he wasn’t fumbling for words and there wasn’t any indication that he was having trouble remembering a “joke.”

Moreover, it’s also difficult to accept that he simply did not comprehend the meaning of what he had just said. It’s so patently clear to the average person that such as statement is insulting to the military and to those who volunteer to serve our country that it’s difficult to give him the benefit of the doubt.

 

[MonsterMark]

What the knee-jerkers fail to realize is Kerry is a Yale educated man and a successful politician, even if they despise him they cannot ignore that he isn't low-brow and he wouldn't (as you mentioned) intentionally piss off 90% of America and shoot his political career in the foot. He was/is a complete fool for the wording he chose to use and for giving the Rightwing spinners such ammo to use against him.

Kerry is a traitor. Plain and simple.

 

[TheDude]

I agree with Deville. He made a mistake and noted it. I give him a ton of credit for that. Plus, he is not a rubber stamp, imho, of Dims, although I admit to not knowing his voting record. He does appear to be more 'fair' on the subjects than most that would be considered 'from the left'. He has demonstrated a willingness to listen and adjusts his thinking based on the arguments. I'll add that I feel he stays true to his convictions, which I also commend.

Thank you for your sincerity.

Voting record... I turned 18 in 1991 so I voted.

1) Clinton
2) Gore
3) Kerry - That wasn't an easy vote decision, Joey likened it back then to choosing which bullet to take, I have to agree... I was not overly impressed with Kerry but I felt Bush had to go. To date I am not a Bush fan, but I am less critical than years past.

 

[TheDude]

Kerry is a traitor. Plain and simple.

I know you feel that way, but I am talking about the mans intelligence and his willingness to garrote his political career.

 

[TheDude]

I would like to think it was a botched “joke” but considering his history of bashing the military there is a good chance he said exactly what he believes.

Also, he didn’t attempted to correct his misstatement immediately after he allegedly botched the so-called “joke” to make clear he had no intention of saying what he apparently said. After hearing the tape it sounds to me that he said exactly what he wanted to say. In other words, he wasn’t fumbling for words and there wasn’t any indication that he was having trouble remembering a “joke.”

Moreover, it’s also difficult to accept that he simply did not comprehend the meaning of what he had just said. It’s so patently clear to the average person that such as statement is insulting to the military and to those who volunteer to serve our country that it’s difficult to give him the benefit of the doubt.

The reason I would believe him would be simple; why would a politician, especially one considering running for the presidency willingly kill their political carrier? Does he or does he not feel that the US military is composed of nothing more than goons at heart is a different story. He did serve himself so I would think he has some compassion for the military, but then again, his time could have jaded him. I personally do not know.

I agree that is difficult to think he didn't know what he was saying, but it happens; he stuck his shoe right in his mouth and now the Right is going to make him taste the rubber until end times.

 

[MAC1]

I know you feel that way, but I am talking about the mans intelligence and his willingness to garrote his political career.

John Kerry lost the 2004 presidential election in part due to his attacks against the military going back to his 1971 testimony before Congress. Simply put, many voters did not respect him and felt that he betrayed the military and therefore could not be trusted. I believe as recently as a couple of weeks ago he said that he would not retract any of his 1971 testimony. At this point, however, to admit to lying before Congress would definitely end his political career.

Nevertheless, John Kerry is pretty arrogant as demonstrated by his unwillingness to apologize in the face of an obvious insulting remark or a so-called botched “joke.” Moreover, his attacks against President Bush indicates that he has no problem running his mouth.

While Kerry perhaps would not intentionally damage his political career the real truth may be that he can't help himself. Assuming voters conclude that his “joke” was not a joke after all, suffice it to say when all is said and done he really did deliberately end his political career.