What mods can be done to an '04 LS8. What S type R parts cross over also.
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Bullschmidt
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Providing cliff notes here....
- OP is a private driver
- OP provides his own car for business purposes (What did OP drive before?)
- OP got LS as gift
- OP needs to mod 'taxi' so he can outperform Chargers, which is by request of his clients.
- OP has 10k to spend
- OP doesn't want to search the treasure trove of LVC information on modifications
Makes perfectly good sense to me
- OP is a private driver
- OP provides his own car for business purposes (What did OP drive before?)
- OP got LS as gift
- OP needs to mod 'taxi' so he can outperform Chargers, which is by request of his clients.
- OP has 10k to spend
- OP doesn't want to search the treasure trove of LVC information on modifications
Makes perfectly good sense to me
1LoudLS
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a couple of thoughts on this...
a G8 is just as nice as the LS (and slightly more of an actual american car... at the least the Holden carryover is using a tried and true american drive train), handling may be the only place the LS would preform better, but at least the G8 would provide the power you are looking for, with actual options for performance up grades. but if a G8 isnt nice enough for them(even though Im not sure how an LS's plastic parts are any better then a G8's plastic parts), sell the LS and get a either a 5.7 or 6.0 CTS-V.
you could also go with a Mercury Marauder. at least with a town car or Marauder can easily be surer charged with little trouble...
and the trolling nature he was speaking of is more coming on to a forum as a new member and starting a new thread about stuff that has been gone over a hundred times...
The LS is a drivers car... if I was paying somebody to drive me around, the LS would be one of the last cars I would ever consider hiring. the best part of a SRT8 is that you don't have to worry about buying it and THEN modifying it... it is already quite potent in bone stock form... if you want a car that is faster than a charger, buy a charger and then stroke it out...
a G8 is just as nice as the LS (and slightly more of an actual american car... at the least the Holden carryover is using a tried and true american drive train), handling may be the only place the LS would preform better, but at least the G8 would provide the power you are looking for, with actual options for performance up grades. but if a G8 isnt nice enough for them(even though Im not sure how an LS's plastic parts are any better then a G8's plastic parts), sell the LS and get a either a 5.7 or 6.0 CTS-V.
you could also go with a Mercury Marauder. at least with a town car or Marauder can easily be surer charged with little trouble...
and the trolling nature he was speaking of is more coming on to a forum as a new member and starting a new thread about stuff that has been gone over a hundred times...
The LS is a drivers car... if I was paying somebody to drive me around, the LS would be one of the last cars I would ever consider hiring. the best part of a SRT8 is that you don't have to worry about buying it and THEN modifying it... it is already quite potent in bone stock form... if you want a car that is faster than a charger, buy a charger and then stroke it out...
1LoudLS
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go back to your bridge troll!!! LO freaking L
1LoudLS
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man can you imagine what you could do to a V with 10k... already has the brembos. already has a great suspension. fukc a bottle, big charger or a big snail! go baby go, your clients wouldn't have to worry about not getting away fast enough!
I blew a chunk of a piston, it wasn't a bent rod after all.
If by brembos you mean the s type r brembo calipers, they will not fit. The s type r rotors have too much offset, they wont even touch the hub before hitting parts on the knuckle. The calipers are so massive, the mounting points also hit the knuckle, they do not fit. The non-brembo s type r calipers, 05-07 I think, are a direct bolt on and are bigger than the ls calipers, so that would work and has been done here by a few members.
The Frankenstein BBK brackets are about to be done, wilwood fronts, brembo rears. Your options for big calipers would be the non-brembo s type direct bolt ons, stop techs BBK, or making your own brackets for big calipers that are compact enough to fit the ls.
You can buy a turbo kit for the ls but will only be able to run 5 psi tops, unless you dump more money into the engine and upgrade the rods and pistons. Pm me for kit info.
If by brembos you mean the s type r brembo calipers, they will not fit. The s type r rotors have too much offset, they wont even touch the hub before hitting parts on the knuckle. The calipers are so massive, the mounting points also hit the knuckle, they do not fit. The non-brembo s type r calipers, 05-07 I think, are a direct bolt on and are bigger than the ls calipers, so that would work and has been done here by a few members.
The Frankenstein BBK brackets are about to be done, wilwood fronts, brembo rears. Your options for big calipers would be the non-brembo s type direct bolt ons, stop techs BBK, or making your own brackets for big calipers that are compact enough to fit the ls.
You can buy a turbo kit for the ls but will only be able to run 5 psi tops, unless you dump more money into the engine and upgrade the rods and pistons. Pm me for kit info.
1LoudLS
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are these the ones that will not fit under the OEM wheels? because as stated above, different wheels is forbidden by the clients...
Bullschmidt
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I completely forgot about that..Those are certainly the ones...He better can the BBK idea since he can't step up to 18's...
This x1,000
Yeah those, I missed thank part. Well since he seems to like the s type r a lot, go for stock s type r wheel that do fit with those calipers. The zeus wheels are very close to the 5 spoke gen1 wheels, just a size up and the spoke are a tad different.
FDR
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You can still compare comfort and ease of use between similarly sized planes or cars. ABS feeling and arm rest sizes are both topics that can be compared, regardless of the type of car. The Taurus just happens to be my other main car that I've driven for years and have the most experience with. I was saying I've never felt the LS's ABS engage and leaving room for the possibility it happened. I assume it hasn't, but I was just leaving it open. Obviously the LS will outperform the Taurus.
You on call 24/7 or something?
Calm down about the drug reference. There aren't many other "occupations" that have such vehicle requirements. It was a joke because nobody here knows you, knows what you do, or knows what set your requirements.
I'm glad you can Google "troll". Go over to LvC's "Lincoln LS High performance" section. You can Google it. Or you can Google "LvC LS ___Insert mod here___" to get better results organized by popularity and not just posting date.
But understand that most people that would read this post in the first place are regulars. Misfire floaters only come in when they think the dealer is lying to them. We've seen a number of people come in hot and ready like a Little Caesar's pizza to turn their LS into a 10 grand Millennium Falcon, only to realize it's not happening fairly quickly. Some things are too expensive, some things are not worth the cost for how much you gain. There's not much that hasn't been tried (or at least investigated) with the LS. If you've got the money, go ahead and try whatever it is you want to do. I'd love to see another hot rodded LS. There's been a supercharger, a couple of turbos, and even a Chevy LSx swap.
1LoudLS
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FYI it was actually a LS1 swap, he just named the car "LSX"
man, I'm not gonna lie, I don't care what didn't work on the car or what people think about cross breeding... A 7.0 LSx/LS7 lincoln would be one insane street machine!
1LoudLS
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FDR
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Is an LSX a specific engine? I always thought LSx was just a way of saying it's an LS series engine without designating the heads. I couldn't remember which he dropped in
I'll raise you one more time.
I'll raise you one more time.
Telco
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The LSx is commonly used to refer to Chevy's 3rd generation and newer V8 engines. GM uses LSx to refer to their high performance models, like the LSx376 and the LSx454. The 376 comes in two flavors, the B8 and the B15, designed to accommodate 8 or 15 pounds of forced induction. But considering you can take a stock 4.8L from the junkyard and strap on enough turbo to pull some 600+HP without even rebuilding it...
oldsouth
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Caddys do not do well and are front wheel drive or all wheel drive. Client specs rear wheel only.
Asked client about a G8 tonight. Not acceptable being a Pontiac. Same with Mercury, plus Mercs do not handle. Ever seen one Autocross?
Looking to put all the info in place and the search function here needs help.
You nailed it. The LS is a driver's car. The SRT8 would be my choice but the client was not willing to front the extra cash.
Charger is a Dodge. Again not acceptable.
oldsouth
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You can still compare comfort and ease of use between similarly sized planes or cars. ABS feeling and arm rest sizes are both topics that can be compared, regardless of the type of car. The Taurus just happens to be my other main car that I've driven for years and have the most experience with. I was saying I've never felt the LS's ABS engage and leaving room for the possibility it happened. I assume it hasn't, but I was just leaving it open. Obviously the LS will outperform the Taurus.
Calm down about the drug reference. There aren't many other "occupations" that have such vehicle requirements. It was a joke because nobody here knows you, knows what you do, or knows what set your requirements.
I'm glad you can Google "troll". Go over to LvC's "Lincoln LS High performance" section. You can Google it. Or you can Google "LvC LS ___Insert mod here___" to get better results organized by popularity and not just posting date.
But understand that most people that would read this post in the first place are regulars. Misfire floaters only come in when they think the dealer is lying to them. We've seen a number of people come in hot and ready like a Little Caesar's pizza to turn their LS into a 10 grand Millennium Falcon, only to realize it's not happening fairly quickly. Some things are too expensive, some things are not worth the cost for how much you gain. There's not much that hasn't been tried (or at least investigated) with the LS. If you've got the money, go ahead and try whatever it is you want to do. I'd love to see another hot rodded LS. There's been a supercharger, a couple of turbos, and even a Chevy LSx swap.
I saw the LSX car on your tube. Nice sound. I wish this engine could sound like that but alas it cannot.
I drive nights usually 9pm-9am.
oldsouth
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Wheels only have to be stock in appearance and not chrome.
Telco
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Weird. Evidently the "client" requires only a fast Lincoln LS, because the other cars listed meet his criteria yet he shoots them down? I'm now going with troll, and I think I'm going to mosey on out of this conversation now, because there's something flaky about this guy. Y'all enjoy.
oldsouth
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Wheels only have to be stock in appearance and not chrome.
Bullschmidt
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This doesn't even make sense. If your so called client is paying for the car then why did your brother have to gift you an LS?
1LoudLS
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the standard LSx is a crate version of the Z06's and the Z28's 7.0 LS7
this is the motor that Hennessey uses and twin turbos in the Venom GT, and the CTS-V VR1200
the LSx454 is a bigger 7.4 version still based off of the LS7 block
both the LSx376 are a crate version of the 6.2 LS3, with a built bottom end made for boost, basicly between an LSA and LS9
all 4th gen bow tie small block
1LoudLS
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ok you must have missed something... the specific caddy I recommended, is neither FWD or AWD, it is purely RWD...
that being said, it does very well... well enough to be toward the top of the list of 4dr cars on the Nürburgring ring when they came out.
well that makes it tougher as sport cars tend to have metallic colored wheels and luxury cars tend to have chrome wheels (especially american cars!)
also who is the subjective judge to decide what wheels look OEM and which ones don't?
1LoudLS
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ok now it is weird...
has 10K to spend on mods
would choose SRT8
client won't pony up extra cash
SRT8's can be found as low as $15k
so your LS cant be sold for $5k to make up the gap?
also weird that a client is so picky about what the car has to be, but accepts something a decade old. that really makes no sense as most modern compact cars are now as nice as the LS was 10-15 years ago. "yeah sure, I'll take the not so fast, small car thats not really comfortable for me instead of a actual fast car with plenty of room, comfort and nice trim..."
has 10K to spend on mods
would choose SRT8
client won't pony up extra cash
SRT8's can be found as low as $15k
so your LS cant be sold for $5k to make up the gap?
also weird that a client is so picky about what the car has to be, but accepts something a decade old. that really makes no sense as most modern compact cars are now as nice as the LS was 10-15 years ago. "yeah sure, I'll take the not so fast, small car thats not really comfortable for me instead of a actual fast car with plenty of room, comfort and nice trim..."
1LoudLS
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