Changed my oil today, guess how it went?

[Dr. Paul]

If he's filling the pan with seven quarts it certainly does.

 

[95Marklll(Kingcobra)]

I put 6 qts in mine and I have a pure one filter on the car isent it suppose to get rid of the 2 sec knock noise at cold start up? My car still makes the noise so idk should I add 1/4 qrt or half would this even be relevent to fixing the problem?

 

[Dr. Paul]

All the older, higher mileage Lincolns my family and I have had made that noise at startup. I don't think adding oil will help at all since the system is pressurized prior to startup, and the oil has predominantly drained back into the pan.

 

[shiryu0]

mine has always taken 7 quarts....every single oil change.........

 

[chicken]

here is my fl-820s cap wrench, works every time

 

[Dr. Paul]

mine has always taken 7 quarts....every single oil change.........

You can put in as much as you want, that doesn't mean it's correct.


Meh, you guys probably know better than Ford does anyway. All they did was design it.

 

[Dominus]

You're right man. Oil pan capacity has nothing to do with it.

Do you think that maybe quite possibly Ford simply ballparks the oil capacity? "Overfilled" is a condition to where the oil level is too high.

Either way, you're nuts for running 13.5 quarts of oil in that thing. My racecar uses 9.5 quarts of oil and I've had to wait ten minutes for it to get up to temperature before.

Now isn't that just good for your race car. I don't need to heat up 13.5 quarts. The oil in the bypass filter barely flows at all (it's a bypass filter), and all of the oil in the oil cooling system stays at very low flow until the thermostat in the oil system open up. So the amount of oil I'm heating up is actually quite less than full capacity. Just whatever is in the dual filters, and whatever is in the pan and engine.

Driving a car on cold oil = bad

Well sh!t, I'd better just throw my car in the garbage now, because when my car was bone stock, I used it mainly for short trips, and the oil almost never saw full operating temps, or anywhere close to it. Any trip I take where my oil got up to temp with the stock setup was long enough for it to get up to temp now.

I run all of my cars for an hour every week just to let them get to operating temps, because some of them would never see it otherwise at times. Depends on my activities at the time.

Too much oil = lose hp
Too much oil = foamy oil
Too much oil = excessive windage

Yeah, and for all this to happen, the oil has to read high on the dipstick.

Furthermore, all of the benefits you claim to receive from this setup can be had by simply using good oil and changing it at appropriate intervals.

Using good oil will prevent it from overheating due to excessive horsepower and driving conditions? WHO KNEW???????

I just tossed in the dual filters because I already had to run lines to the front for the oil coolers anyway, and they're far less annoying to change than the stock filter. The bypass filters filters far better than anything a full flow filter will. Won't make a difference now, but far far far down the road, it will.

But, I guess if you're happy with it - that's all that matters.


Paul.

Yes, I will be happy with stable oil temperatures and a distinct lack of oil breakdown due to overheating. Thank you.

 

[Dominus]

You can put in as much as you want, that doesn't mean it's correct.


Meh, you guys probably know better than Ford does anyway. All they did was design it.

Yeah, Ford did such a great job designing the oil system, that my oil pan is rusting out on an 8 year old car allowing it to leak oil.

Meanwhile, I have 40 year old cars that don't have a spot on their pans.

Why wouldn't I trust the fantastic engineers at Ford?

 

[Dominus]

here is my fl-820s cap wrench, works every time

Now post a picture showing exactly how you get that and a ratchet in there, because I looked it over several times and couldn't figure it out.

 

[chicken]

ill try to have the camera handy next time, but no problem just reach straight up in there and ratchet it out

 

[shiryu0]

Yeah, Ford did such a great job designing the oil system, that my oil pan is rusting out on an 8 year old car allowing it to leak oil.

Meanwhile, I have 40 year old cars that don't have a spot on their pans.

Why wouldn't I trust the fantastic engineers at Ford?

so true....my pan is starting to loose its paint in one spot......i look at the '52 chevrolet we got in the backyard, that hasnt ran in the last 15 years, no rust on the pan........

 

[cavemansmarkviii]

But an aluminum pan would have driven the price even higher, added to that fact is they wouldn't be selling as many replacements now. $$$

 

[Dr. Paul]

Do you think that maybe quite possibly Ford simply ballparks the oil capacity?

No.

"Overfilled" is a condition to where the oil level is too high.

...or maybe there is to much oil volume in the system.

Now isn't that just good for your race car. I don't need to heat up 13.5 quarts. The oil in the bypass filter barely flows at all (it's a bypass filter), and all of the oil in the oil cooling system stays at very low flow until the thermostat in the oil system open up. So the amount of oil I'm heating up is actually quite less than full capacity. Just whatever is in the dual filters, and whatever is in the pan and engine.

So you don't have to heat the oil up, but when the thermostat opens you do... but you don't. You make a lot of sense. Regardless of whether you have a thermostat, at some point, you're still heating 13.5 quarts of oil.

Well sh!t, I'd better just throw my car in the garbage now, because when my car was bone stock, I used it mainly for short trips, and the oil almost never saw full operating temps, or anywhere close to it. Any trip I take where my oil got up to temp with the stock setup was long enough for it to get up to temp now.

Sweet, and when it gets up to temp, all the cool oil comes flowing back in!

Yeah, and for all this to happen, the oil has to read high on the dipstick.

Dipsticks are precise measuring devices you know.

Using good oil will prevent it from overheating due to excessive horsepower and driving conditions? WHO KNEW???????

Excessive horsepower. Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahaha. I know several 700+ rwhp cars running 7 quarts of oil in a wet sump and they do just fine. I'm sure your 300 hp Mark needs a NASCAR oiling system.

Yes, I will be happy with stable oil temperatures and a distinct lack of oil breakdown due to overheating. Thank you.

Yah, that crazy power 4.6 is probably breaking your oil down so quickly that the 6 quarts (oh, I mean 7) that was in it couldn't keep up!

Yeah, Ford did such a great job designing the oil system, that my oil pan is rusting out on an 8 year old car allowing it to leak oil.

Meanwhile, I have 40 year old cars that don't have a spot on their pans.

Why wouldn't I trust the fantastic engineers at Ford?

This is probably the dumbest and most irrelevant argument I've ever heard.

What do you think Ford spends more time on?

a - Ensuring a motor will last because the oiling system is appropriate and will provide lubrication to the engines internal components, or

b - Ensuring that a part won't rust out in eight years for those living in moist/wet climates.

Guess what, my 302-based block will have a noticeable decrease in oil pressure on long, extremely high speed sweeping left-handers. Those stupid Ford engineers! Why didn't they think of that when they designed the block in the 60s!!!

Everyone here is an engineer and mechanical genius.

Paul.

 

[Moes8]

Everyone here is an engineer and mechanical genius.

Paul.

POT CALLING THE KETTLE BLACK !

 

[Dr. Paul]

POT CALLING THE KETTLE BLACK !

I am neither an engineer nor a mechanical genius. However, it is fair to say that I can put a cogent thought together about performance automobiles.

I also have a very real-world approach to high performance.

 

[Dominus]

No.

And you know this how? You designed the Mark VIII I suppose?

...or maybe there is to much oil volume in the system.

Only because Ford put that volume there. That's the way the damn engine was before I ever touched it.

So you don't have to heat the oil up, but when the thermostat opens you do... but you don't. You make a lot of sense. Regardless of whether you have a thermostat, at some point, you're still heating 13.5 quarts of oil.

Let me make this very clear for a retard such as yourself. The only oil that has to be heated is the oil that flows inside of the thermostat controlled system. Once that oil heats up, the thermostat makes sure that the oil flowing in the engine stays at its proper temp. So there is no running on "cold oil".

Who cares if "at some point I am heating 13.5 quarts of oil". What exactly is the big deal with that? 7 quarts or 13.5, if I take a short trip, it's not getting hot, and if I take a long trip, it's not staying cold. There's no difference at all.

Sweet, and when it gets up to temp, all the cool oil comes flowing back in!

No. Not all of the cool oil. Just enough to keep it from overheating.

Dipsticks are precise measuring devices you know.

Good enough to tell that it's not getting too high, which is why any experienced mechanic will depend on the dipstick rather than depending on volume measurements, including your vaunted Ford engineers.

Excessive horsepower. Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahaha. I know several 700+ rwhp cars running 7 quarts of oil in a wet sump and they do just fine. I'm sure your 300 hp Mark needs a NASCAR oiling system.

First of all, NASCARS run dry sump systems. Secondly, There are FACTORY STREET CARS that run more than 7 quarts in their oil systems. Quit being a douchebag already. Even Ponyfreak's oil pan carries 8.5 quarts, and he has done more and knows more about Mark VIIIs than you will ever know in your lifetime.

When I have a belt driven 5 stage Petersen hanging off my block, and am measuring my oil capacity in GALLONS, then you get back to me about having a "NASCAR oil system". Well now we have confirmed that you don't know the first damn thing about NASCAR engines.

Yah, that crazy power 4.6 is probably breaking your oil down so quickly that the 6 quarts (oh, I mean 7) that was in it couldn't keep up!

Did you even notice that I said that this is for FUTURE power?

This is probably the dumbest and most irrelevant argument I've ever heard.

You're the dumbest and most irrelevant person I've ever heard from on here.

What do you think Ford spends more time on?

a - Ensuring a motor will last because the oiling system is appropriate and will provide lubrication to the engines internal components, or

b - Ensuring that a part won't rust out in eight years for those living in moist/wet climates.

Neither. DOHC mod motors are known for taking a dump due to oil collecting in the heads. Hell, the whole DOHC mod motor itself is far from being a paramount example of great engineering.

Guess what, my 302-based block will have a noticeable decrease in oil pressure on long, extremely high speed sweeping left-handers. Those stupid Ford engineers! Why didn't they think of that when they designed the block in the 60s!!!

Everyone here is an engineer and mechanical genius.

Paul.

No, just you. And actually, you aren't. You only think so. What you actually are is an arrogant dick who thinks that his mediocre paper knowledge of automobiles gives him some sort of degree to trash on what other people do. The fact of the matter is, my engine is a whole hell of a lot healthier with the oil system it has than any full flow oil filtration system, and even with stock power levels, I have seen oil temps at sustained high speeds that were more than I would like to see.

You might think you're talking to some stupid kid, because of your arrogant nature, but I've put together tons of engines, including the turbocharged Hemi in my Charger, and the turbo system itself. You have no idea what I am even doing with my Mak VIII or what I am going to do. An oil cooling system that suits a drag racer hardly holds up under sustained high rpm operations. But I am not going to explain myself to you. You're nothing but a massive sh!t talker, and you have very little idea what in the hell you are talking about. You think that just because you don't understand something that it is somehow invalid, and come up with the weakest, lamest, and most irrelevant arguments to support your opinions. For all of the advantages I have gained in filtration and oil stability, there are only 2 arguments you have made so far:

1. "OMG you might not need an oil system that good!"

2. "OMG your circulating oil will heat up at a proper time, but you're eventually going to have to heat up 13.5 quarts! I can't think of a disadvantage to this, but OMG!"

Now I'm going to go kill myself because of the HORRORS OF HAVING AN OIL SYSTEM TOO GOOD!

 

[Dr. Paul]

And you know this how? You designed the Mark VIII I suppose? Only because Ford put that volume there. That's the way the damn engine was before I ever touched it.

No, because I don't imagine Ford, unless they are packing their design plants with retards, would leave something like the oil system to chance.

Let me make this very clear for a retard such as yourself. The only oil that has to be heated is the oil that flows inside of the thermostat controlled system. Once that oil heats up, the thermostat makes sure that the oil flowing in the engine stays at its proper temp. So there is no running on "cold oil". Who cares if "at some point I am heating 13.5 quarts of oil". What exactly is the big deal with that? 7 quarts or 13.5, if I take a short trip, it's not getting hot, and if I take a long trip, it's not staying cold. There's no difference at all.

Yes, please cut it out in cardboard for me - my feeble mind strains to understand how an oil thermostat works.

When oil gets up to temp, then the thermostat opens. Then the oil that wasn't circulating in the motor with any significant volume flows in, and you have much cooler oil entering the system. Voila! I used to have an oil thermostat on my red car, I'm pretty sure I can grasp how it works.

Good enough to tell that it's not getting too high, which is why any experienced mechanic will depend on the dipstick rather than depending on volume measurements, including your vaunted Ford engineers.

Then stick with it - the dipstick is never marked incorrectly, and is a precise way of measuring oil.

First of all, NASCARS run dry sump systems.

I'm aware of that.

Secondly, There are FACTORY STREET CARS that run more than 7 quarts in their oil systems.

Yes, and none of them say "Mark VIII" on them.

Quit being a douchebag already. Even Ponyfreak's oil pan carries 8.5 quarts, and he has done more and knows more about Mark VIIIs than you will ever know in your lifetime.

Which is good, because there would never be a reason for me to build a Mark VIII.

When I have a belt driven 5 stage Petersen hanging off my block, and am measuring my oil capacity in GALLONS, then you get back to me about having a "NASCAR oil system". Well now we have confirmed that you don't know the first damn thing about NASCAR engines.

Is metaphor completely lost on you? I'm well aware that NASCAR, (and virtually every other competitive road race or endurance competition) uses dry sump. I even considered myself for a short time due to my high g-force left-hander oiling problems - but decided that an accusump would do just fine for what I was doing - and is about five grand cheaper.

Did you even notice that I said that this is for FUTURE power?

Well, if you have sustained high-rpm for road racing, autocrossing, or time events (e.g. Silver State Classic), then you likely won't have a bazillion horsepower because it's not controllable.

If you've got high (i.e. 800+ rwhp) horsepower aspirations for drag racing, then that system is equally unnecessary.

You're the dumbest and most irrelevant person I've ever heard from on here.

Is that your way of saying, [/i]"You're right, my rusty oil pan argument sucked."[/i]

Neither. DOHC mod motors are known for taking a dump due to oil collecting in the heads. Hell, the whole DOHC mod motor itself is far from being a paramount example of great engineering.

I'll agree with you here. Ford's modular OHC architecture is definitely the worst idea they've had since the Mustang II.

No, just you. And actually, you aren't. You only think so. What you actually are is an arrogant dick who thinks that his mediocre paper knowledge of automobiles gives him some sort of degree to trash on what other people do.

Dang my paper knowledge! I've never even looked under the hood of a car before!!

The fact of the matter is, my engine is a whole hell of a lot healthier with the oil system it has than any full flow oil filtration system, and even with stock power levels,

I would argue it likely provides little or no benefit.

I have seen oil temps at sustained high speeds that were more than I would like to see.

Where is your oil temp sending unit, and what temps have you seen?

You might think you're talking to some stupid kid, because of your arrogant nature, but I've put together tons of engines, including the turbocharged Hemi in my Charger, and the turbo system itself. You have no idea what I am even doing with my Mak VIII or what I am going to do. An oil cooling system that suits a drag racer hardly holds up under sustained high rpm operations. But I am not going to explain myself to you. You're nothing but a massive sh!t talker, and you have very little idea what in the hell you are talking about. You think that just because you don't understand something that it is somehow invalid, and come up with the weakest, lamest, and most irrelevant arguments to support your opinions. For all of the advantages I have gained in filtration and oil stability, there are only 2 arguments you have made so far:

1. "OMG you might not need an oil system that good!"

2. "OMG your circulating oil will heat up at a proper time, but you're eventually going to have to heat up 13.5 quarts! I can't think of a disadvantage to this, but OMG!"

Now I'm going to go kill myself because of the HORRORS OF HAVING AN OIL SYSTEM TOO GOOD!

Blah blah blah. Your oil system is little or no better than a stock one. Oil changes just cost more.


Carry on.

Paul.

 

[Dominus]

No, because I don't imagine Ford, unless they are packing their design plants with retards, would leave something like the oil system to chance.

You don't imagine? Maybe you should speak to the tons of roadcourse drivers who have blown up DOHC mod motors due to oil pooling in the heads. Ford did leave it to chance, and to this day drainback remains a huge problem for these engines.

Maybe if you had any knowledge of these engines outside of drag racing, you would know this.

Yes, please cut it out in cardboard for me - my feeble mind strains to understand how an oil thermostat works.

When oil gets up to temp, then the thermostat opens. Then the oil that wasn't circulating in the motor with any significant volume flows in, and you have much cooler oil entering the system. Voila! I used to have an oil thermostat on my red car, I'm pretty sure I can grasp how it works.

Well if you understand how it works, then you know that the oil temps don't take any longer than stock to rise (OK maybe 30 seconds), and only enough cool oil is let in to MAINTAIN that now hot temperature.

Disadvantages? NONE.

Then stick with it - the dipstick is never marked incorrectly, and is a precise way of measuring oil.

Every single racer who runs a custom oil pan does the exact same thing.

I'm aware of that.

Then why in the hell were you saying that I have a NASCAR oiling system? Because you were just trying to be an a-hole, or what? Because I certainly don't have dry sump.

Yes, and none of them say "Mark VIII" on them.

Some of them do carry Ford 4.6 DOHC engines though. Some of these DOHC 4.6 Ford cars even have *gasp* DRY SUMPS!!!!

Which is good, because there would never be a reason for me to build a Mark VIII.

Then just admit that you don't know as much about these cars as you would like to believe and move yourself along.

Is metaphor completely lost on you? I'm well aware that NASCAR, (and virtually every other competitive road race or endurance competition) uses dry sump. I even considered myself for a short time due to my high g-force left-hander oiling problems - but decided that an accusump would do just fine for what I was doing - and is about five grand cheaper.

Metaphor? Actually, you used a hyperbole, not a metaphor, and either way, it was terribly inaccurate, and you did it for the sake of being a complete dick.

Well, if you have sustained high-rpm for road racing, autocrossing, or time events (e.g. Silver State Classic), then you likely won't have a bazillion horsepower because it's not controllable.

Because there's no such thing as a road racing car that has high horsepower. As a matter fo fact, there's not even such thing as a road racing car that gets hot oil temps! As a matter of fact, oil coolers overall are unnecessary! Everyone using them is just a bunch of retards! Dr. Paul knows the truth!

And there CERTAINLY aren't any high horsepower cars at the Silver State Classic. Nope. Just a bunch of 200hp Hondas. After all, when attempting t average 200mph over a 90-mile course, high amounts of horsepower NEVER come in handy. You'll just lose control!

If you've got high (i.e. 800+ rwhp) horsepower aspirations for drag racing, then that system is equally unnecessary.

I've got a few lightweight live axle cars. Why in the hell would I build a Mark VIII for drag racing?

Is that your way of saying, [/i]"You're right, my rusty oil pan argument sucked."[/i]

No, it's my way of saying your entire argument, from the first word, totally sucked.

I'll agree with you here. Ford's modular OHC architecture is definitely the worst idea they've had since the Mustang II.



Dang my paper knowledge! I've never even looked under the hood of a car before!!

If you don't know that there are applications in which an oil cooling system needs to be upgraded, then you either never have opened a hood in your life, or just like to pretend to be this ignorant so you can insult people who you feel superior to.

I would argue it likely provides little or no benefit.

A 50 degree reduction in oil temps at top speed? Crap! That's no benefit at oil!!!

Sub-micron filtration of the oil system, as opposed to 20 micron? How can that be beneficial????

Where is your oil temp sending unit, and what temps have you seen?

Oil pan, and filter head. I've seen as high as 245 degrees at 140 mph with the stock oil system.

Blah blah blah. Your oil system is little or no better than a stock one. Oil changes just cost more.


Carry on.

Paul.

50 degree reduction in oil temps? Nope. That sounds no better than stock.

4 times the filter media area, preventing the oil filters from going into bypass, except for the coldest startups? Nope. Filtering oil is as good as not filtering it, right?

Sub-micron filtration through a bypass filter, which is such a proven technique that all Oil Analysis labs use a completely different system for gauging engine condition because they remove trace contaminants from the oil system that normally hang around in a full-flow system preventing them from gauging their amounts in order to discover this information? Nope. Sounds the same as stock.

It has become painfuly obvious to me that you believe that I just looked at a bunch of parts in a Summit catalog and started whipping out the Amex, but a considerable amount of personal research and professional advice went into my oil system before I put it together, and I haven't even begun to detail just how thoroughly I researched every part and what I needed them to do. But I will say this much. Everything I have done with this oil system has addressed a problem, and has delivered real, measurable results, and all of them positive and necessary. The exception being the bypass filter, but I can't seem to find any professional source, OEM or otherwise that says that having cleaner oil is a bad or unnecessary thing.

 

[Dr. Paul]

You don't imagine? Maybe you should speak to the tons of roadcourse drivers who have blown up DOHC mod motors due to oil pooling in the heads. Ford did leave it to chance, and to this day drainback remains a huge problem for these engines. Maybe if you had any knowledge of these engines outside of drag racing, you would know this.

Ultra high performance road racing is a far cry from a production vehicle. I imagine Ford's engineers focus more on the latter than the former.

Heh, there was a guy in AIX that raced DOHC, then he realized that motor sucked and put a pushrod motor in it. Then he won the class for the season.

Well if you understand how it works, then you know that the oil temps don't take any longer than stock to rise (OK maybe 30 seconds), and only enough cool oil is let in to MAINTAIN that now hot temperature.

You're system must defy the laws of physics if twice the volume of oil heats up that quick.

Every single racer who runs a custom oil pan does the exact same thing.

I had to mark my dipstick myself based on the volume of oil in the pan, I don't know about you.

Then why in the hell were you saying that I have a NASCAR oiling system? Because you were just trying to be an a-hole, or what? Because I certainly don't have dry sump. Metaphor? Actually, you used a hyperbole, not a metaphor, and either way, it was terribly inaccurate, and you did it for the sake of being a complete dick.

I was making an absurdity out of your oiling system by comparing it to a NASCAR one. Either way, with your literary genius you should have been able to discern that I was not being literal.

Some of them do carry Ford 4.6 DOHC engines though. Some of these DOHC 4.6 Ford cars even have *gasp* DRY SUMPS!!!!

Let me know when your Lincoln morphs into a Ford GT.

Then just admit that you don't know as much about these cars as you would like to believe and move yourself along.

I don't know as much about OHC Ford's as I do about pushrod motors, but I do know a thing or two about oiling.

Because there's no such thing as a road racing car that has high horsepower. As a matter fo fact, there's not even such thing as a road racing car that gets hot oil temps! As a matter of fact, oil coolers overall are unnecessary! Everyone using them is just a bunch of retards! Dr. Paul knows the truth!

If you planned on road racing a Lincoln Mark VIII, I would piss myself with uncontrollable laughter. Sure there are high horsepower road racecars, in fact, I own one - that being said, it would not be a good platform to try to do that in a Lincoln unless you have limitless funds and are a glutton for punishment.

And there CERTAINLY aren't any high horsepower cars at the Silver State Classic. Nope. Just a bunch of 200hp Hondas. After all, when attempting t average 200mph over a 90-mile course, high amounts of horsepower NEVER come in handy. You'll just lose control!

There are high hp cars there too, but they don't typically reside under the hood of a Mark VIII. For some reason (if memory serves) most of the unlimited cars are Camaros. Although I do remember some maniac entered an old LeBaron a while back and went pretty fast with it. Then there's that little asian guy with his Nissan that wrecked it at some insane speed.

I've got a few lightweight live axle cars. Why in the hell would I build a Mark VIII for drag racing?

Why the hell would you build a Mark VIII for any racing, except potentially land speed racing because they do have a low coefficient of drag.

No, it's my way of saying your entire argument, from the first word, totally sucked.

So, you're dodging my question again then?

If you don't know that there are applications in which an oil cooling system needs to be upgraded, then you either never have opened a hood in your life, or just like to pretend to be this ignorant so you can insult people who you feel superior to.

I am ignorant - you said so yourself.

I was simply questioning the value of your system in your application. If you said "I'm going to produce XXX horsepower and use it to race 200 mph down the salt flats" then maybe I could see cause for it. But as it sits, I don't.

A 50 degree reduction in oil temps at top speed? Crap! That's no benefit at oil!!! Sub-micron filtration of the oil system, as opposed to 20 micron? How can that be beneficial???? 50 degree reduction in oil temps? Nope. That sounds no better than stock.

Your oil should not be too cold either. Nor should the design of the system create a situation where oil temp is ideal only at top speed/extreme situations. Ideally, the normal operating condition of the motor should be taken into account when designing an oil system.

Oil pan, and filter head. I've seen as high as 245 degrees at 140 mph with the stock oil system.

That's pretty warm, but not outrageous.

4 times the filter media area, preventing the oil filters from going into bypass, except for the coldest startups? Nope. Filtering oil is as good as not filtering it, right? Sub-micron filtration through a bypass filter, which is such a proven technique that all Oil Analysis labs use a completely different system for gauging engine condition because they remove trace contaminants from the oil system that normally hang around in a full-flow system preventing them from gauging their amounts in order to discover this information? Nope. Sounds the same as stock.

Is the stock filtration inadequate? Probably not. You sound like an Amsoil dealer - are you?

It has become painfuly obvious to me that you believe that I just looked at a bunch of parts in a Summit catalog and started whipping out the Amex, but a considerable amount of personal research and professional advice went into my oil system before I put it together, and I haven't even begun to detail just how thoroughly I researched every part and what I needed them to do. But I will say this much. Everything I have done with this oil system has addressed a problem, and has delivered real, measurable results, and all of them positive and necessary. The exception being the bypass filter, but I can't seem to find any professional source, OEM or otherwise that says that having cleaner oil is a bad or unnecessary thing.

I don't believe that you didn't think this through, nor do I think that you're some moron who has never changed his brake pads - I'm simply questioning the value of the system in your application. That's all. You've still provided no reasoning for why this is necessary.

Paul.

 

[Brozly]

Gee, my F250 runs 14qts. factory, maybe I should reduce it to a 6 qt. pan..., did Ford screw up on that??

 

[Dr. Paul]

Gee, my F250 runs 14qts. factory, maybe I should reduce it to a 6 qt. pan..., did Ford screw up on that??

 

[cavemansmarkviii]

I used to own a 87 Ranger with a 2.3 liter Mazda built turbo diesel that held 10 quarts of oil.

 

[chicken]

changed my oil a couple days ago and took pics for all you non belivers

 

[shiryu0]

NICE, ive seen those things at parts places, never had to use one though.

 

[Dr. Paul]

This picture is EPIC. LMAO.

Paul.