Custom Lincoln LS Turbo

Pulleys

I was referring to the pulley on the turbo shaft. I am trying to understand the inner workings of this system and I was going to take some measurements of my V6 pulleys to get a better idea of the rpms needed at the turbo. I would appreciate any info you provide.
Thanks
 
BDT Update

If you recall, we were having a problem with relocating the power steering pump on 03 and up engines. The pump would not attach directly to the right side of the block as it would on GEN 1 models which was to have the hydraulic pump removed.

I have fabricated a bracket which mounts to the front plate on the upper right side where the idle pulleys is; that pulley is removed.There was also a necessity to extend the pulley shaft on the stock P/S pump. I am still waiting for the shaft extension as I do not have a metal lathe. I do not know yet whether a longer serpentine belt will be needed or not; I would not be surprised if I end up spending some time searching for a longer belt, so be it.

We previously discussed the new injectors which were going to be needed. That discussion talked about 30lb EV6 or EV1 style injectors. Unfortunately the stock injectors on 03-05 3.0 models is a EV14 body style which is 64.85 mm in length. The EV6 is 73.7mm to 74.7mm depending on Manufacturer and the EV1 is 77.35mm in length. I am opting for 32lb injectors from Ford Racing which are the EV14 body style, a direct fit. Unfortunately these injectors are among the most expensive I have seen. To go with either other body style would involve raising the fuel rail between 7 and 9/ 16ths of an inch. Everybody is free to do as they see fit, I chose a direct fit and the kit, when offered, will include the EV14 injectors.

Wisper is going to AMR Auto Sports for DYNO TUNING and a PCM Flash the beginning of April. Again, the PCM program will be included in the kit. For those that do buy the kit; the PCM program will reflect the 32 lb injectors.


Slowly but surely progress is being made. From the onset, one objective has been to make this as simple and trouble free, both in operation and installation, as possible and I believe we are achieving that.

The kit when offered will include everything needed except the SCT X3 to upload the new program. I am still trying to figure out how to make a X3 available to those that do not have one. Four hundred bucks is lot of money to spend for something you will use only once.

As everything comes together I will post Pic's, Dyno results, ect.. We are getting close, do not give up now!
 
TwansLS said:
all v6s will be able too purchase a kit? any year?
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Yes: There are some differences between the Gen 1 and Gen 2. Gen 1 will require removal of the hydraulic pump/ Fan set up and installation of an electric fan. The PCM program will have been developed using my car,a 2005. Whether there will be any problem using the program with Gen 1, I do not know. Ills is probably the only one on the forum who could give an educated opinion on this; otherwise we will just have to wait and see when a Gen 1 uploads if there are any problems.
 
Shiloh said:
Yes: There are some differences between the Gen 1 and Gen 2. Gen 1 will require removal of the hydraulic pump/ Fan set up and installation of an electric fan. The PCM program will have been developed using my car,a 2005. Whether there will be any problem using the program with Gen 1, I do not know. Ills is probably the only one on the forum who could give an educated opinion on this; otherwise we will just have to wait and see when a Gen 1 uploads if there are any problems.
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The program from your Gen2 LS V6 will not directly crossover into a Gen1 LS V6. There are allot of differences in programming that would hinder this. However, what can be done is that the main tables that affect the bigger things to do with the supercharger system such as the spark tables, MAF transfer, injector values, and so on can be taken from your tune and put into a value file so that it would be a decent starting point on the Gen1 LS V6. There are sometimes differences in the decimal points and multiplier/divisor functions which can play havoc on using value files made for different generations of vehicles but that can be sorted with a little testing.
 
Quik LS said:
?

you already have your choice of turbos and superchargers. This is the only option for the V6 guys currently.
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You know how it goes. No matter how often we mention the options available to people it still doesn't fully sink in with some. :)
 
ILLS said:
You know how it goes. No matter how often we mention the options available to people it still doesn't fully sink in with some. :)
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not to mention a belt fed turbo is a sc.... hmmmmm turbo, sc, nah I'll take the weakest of them all! LOL
 
ILLS said:
The program from your Gen2 LS V6 will not directly crossover into a Gen1 LS V6. There are allot of differences in programming that would hinder this. However, what can be done is that the main tables that affect the bigger things to do with the supercharger system such as the spark tables, MAF transfer, injector values, and so on can be taken from your tune and put into a value file so that it would be a decent starting point on the Gen1 LS V6. There are sometimes differences in the decimal points and multiplier/divisor functions which can play havoc on using value files made for different generations of vehicles but that can be sorted with a little testing.
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Is the VVT programmable?

if it is... once you get that really dialed-in it obviously can't move to Gen1
 
Quik LS said:
Is the VVT programmable?

if it is... once you get that really dialed-in it obviously can't move to Gen1
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I never messed with the VVT tuning in a V6 LS so I cannot say for sure how tunable it is. However, it is probably like any other VVT vehicle which does have certain items you can tune on it.

The "moving to a Gen 1" would be in value files for certain modified parameters only, as just dropping a Gen2 tune directly into a Gen1 car will result in a car that will not start.
 
V8 Bdt

L.Ls said:
make one for the V8 guys
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There will not be a BDT available for the V8 for a variety of reasons. Quik LS has the only available supercharger kit that I am aware of for the V8. Quik's kit was developed and refined over a couple years specifically for the LS V8and has proven results. Touch base with Quik for all the info.
 
Well just checking in to see what has happened since April tune time?
 
Shiloh said:
There will not be a BDT available for the V8 for a variety of reasons. Quik LS has the only available supercharger kit that I am aware of for the V8. Quik's kit was developed and refined over a couple years specifically for the LS V8and has proven results. Touch base with Quik for all the info.
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I didn't think quick made it as a kit, his was more of a one-off deal wasn't it?
 
A kit is available, but only for Gen1 V8. There is a promotion for sale on the LLSOC website.
 
So did he blow his car up? So much excitemnt then ......... NOTHING... I don't really care since I have a V8 anyway, but I'm sure there are some V6 guys that would want to know.

LMAO, everytime someone gets close to doing something on these cars, they dissapear from exsistance... Except for Quik... which reminds me... wheres my supercharger! :D
 
i have half a turbo system already fabbed for my 6er, unfortunately i lost my job for almost a year so got kinda put on pause. should be going again soon once i finish doin the turbos on my audi s4, took my bottle off the ls and put it in there also. daily driving the ls now.
 
I fear you will disapear before the project is complete, or shortly there after... Seems to be the way of the turbo :(
 
Hard to believe it has been 2 years since this topic was started and yet we are still waiting to see the end results. This was very disappointing to say the least!
 
Yea that does suck. The 3.0 has a lot of potential when turbo'd. There's actually an aftermarket for it, at least compared to the 3.9. The stock 10.5 CR makes it hard but the potential is still there and the automatic can be built to handle good power. With my manual though I'm most concerned about how much it could handle.
 
But even with only an additinal 75-90hp, your trany should still hold up very well. We're not talking about 450-500 hp here. Still everytime that I go into the HP section I see this thread and it is very disappointting.
 
remember - 5R55 series can handle 550 ft-lbs of torque (which is what will break it - not hp). In an automatic you have the torque convertor which will multiple the torque from a maximum of 2x decreasing to 1:1 at lockup.

so as long you peak torque atfer to TC is locked is less than 550, and you torque in the lower RPMs (before TC lock) is less than 225 - the trannie should hold.
 
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