New LS owner here, with long cranking issues.

So you bought it "as is". My guess is the dealer you bought it from... cleared any codes it had.... and probably disconnected the battery hoping to reset everything... and hoping there would be no problems until after the sale.

One if your codes has to do with a potential yaw sensor issue... the other is an ABS (antilock brakes) issue. the other code points to the battery being disconneted at some point.

The yaw sensor and ABS issues are probably related... since they "communicate" with each other.

Joe (joegr) is the one you would want to have walk you through it.

OH JOE........ :)
 
04_Sport_LS said:
The yaw sensor and ABS issues are probably related... since they "communicate" with each other.

Joe (joegr) is the one you would want to have walk you through it.

OH JOE........
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Why do I get the feeling that I'm gonna get to know Joe rather well? lol
 
04_Sport_LS said:
But then you go and offer him a Gen 2 manual... when he has a gen 1.



There is going to be some incompatibility. That's right... take a new guy... and hand him invalid info.

The Gen 1 LS uses a throttle cable... whereas the Gen 2 has an electric throttle. THAT'S just ONE major difference.

Some of the cooling system components are different to.

But let's just use the wrong manual. :rolleyes:
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How's the fuel tank\pump different?
 
RyLS said:
>_>

just spill it, how bad is it?
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Yaw sensor or the wiring to it (probably the sensor). The car will drive without it, and you will still have ABS and traction control, but you will not have stability (AdvanceTrac) control. New or used replacement sensor requires calibration. You should probably go ahead and get set up with Forscan so you can do that and read codes and some other stuff. The Windows PC version of Forscan is free, but you will need an $18 OBDII adapter.

BTW, P1000 indicates that you recently disconnected the battery or cleared codes from a scan tool.
 
SultanGris said:
How's the fuel tank\pump different?
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The 2nd gen has more plumbing inside the tank, and the 1st gen has a little more outside the tank. I think that the 1st gen is a little easier to change pumps on, except that those old brittle plastic quick connects will probably break, which makes it a lot harder.
 
04_Sport_LS said:
...One if your codes has to do with a potential yaw sensor issue... the other is an ABS (antilock brakes) issue. the other code points to the battery being disconneted at some point.
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I see two Yaw codes and the reset/disconnect/not ready code, but no ABS code, yet.
 
joegr said:
The 2nd gen has more plumbing inside the tank, and the 1st gen has a little more outside the tank. I think that the 1st gen is a little easier to change pumps on, except that those old brittle plastic quick connects will probably break, which makes it a lot harder.
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Ok, thanks. I saw you mention the jet pump and assumed they were the same. I guess that manual is of no use then, but I'd still look in the tank for debris.
 
I have about 0.5G, maybe more of pdfs on the 1st gen. Some aren't too bad, and others are poorly hand scanned from the factory manuals. If you have some transfer service that doesn't require me to log in or install anything...
 
SultanGris said:
Ok, thanks. I saw you mention the jet pump and assumed they were the same. I guess that manual is of no use then, but I'd still look in the tank for debris.
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More similar than not (on this), but you can't go by much of the procedures given.
 
joegr said:
Well, I'm trying but all I get is "Server responded with 0 code." I tried three different browsers.
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huh, weird, normally that works....but I guess you could upload them to Google Drive
 
Yea Google drive is probably the best, then you can make and share a public link with anyone. You will have to log in, but it's a free Gmail account, most people already have one.
 
Great, now my car's power steering is whining. Sounds like I've got a supercharger! :) Luckily I still have PS!
 
My 01 fuel pump died about 125k miles, I would bet it's the fuel pump. If you are going to keep the car get a good fuel pump not a cheap one. You will need to pull out the back seat lower cushion and look for the fuel pump cover. Remove the hoses and power cord then the entire fuel pump housing. remember there is pressure in the fuel line. next take the fuel housing apart the replace the pump. put everything back together and reinstall. I broke several plastic parts on mine and used epoxy to fix it. I now have 230k miles with no problems starting.
 
I think if people are having issues with their fuel pumps... they need to change gas stations... AND replace their fuel filters more often.

(hopefully I don't jinx myself)... I have 234k on the original fuel pump assemblies. (main and jet)

Cheap gas stations don't monitor their tanks for water and debris in the fuel... and a plugged fuel filter will make the pump work harder... causing premature pump failure.

I change my fuel filter once a year... regardless of milage. $10 a year (and a half hour of time) is cheap insurance.
 
Well, first repair bill
04_Sport_LS said:
I think if people are having issues with their fuel pumps... they need to change gas stations... AND replace their fuel filters more often.

(hopefully I don't jinx myself)... I have 234k on the original fuel pump assemblies. (main and jet)

Cheap gas stations don't monitor their tanks for water and debris in the fuel... and a plugged fuel filter will make the pump work harder... causing premature pump failure.

I change my fuel filter once a year... regardless of milage. $10 a year (and a half hour of time) is cheap insurance.
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I've taken to putting 93 on my car regardless of how expensive it may be. Might pay a little bit more for better quality fuel but I'd rather pay more in gas than pay for a new fuel pump (which I'm gonna have to do anyways but its better to get into the habit now than later)
 
The minimum octane rating for the LS is 91. Anything less could cause engine damage.

91 can be hard to find sometimes... so I also use 93.

There was a station near my work a few years back... that had "alcohol free" 91 octane. The LS really like that.

Unfortunately that station quit selling it... so back to 93.
 
RyLS said:
Might pay a little bit more for better quality fuel but I'd rather pay more in gas than pay for a new fuel pump
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Fuel quality isn't necessairly based on octane. You can have 93 octane that is full of crap that messes up your pump and filter.

Typically... if the gas station looks run down and crappy... I stay away. Unless I see fresh concrete sections where the tanks are. That tells me the tanks have been swapped out recently.
 
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