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be careful ordering from ebay...

I've seen a hundred sales where they listed the motor craft part # and said "OEM quality" and they were just regular cheap ass garbage Chinese coils. just make sure that they are genuine Motorcraft
 
Yes, AGSP-32F-SM is the Ford part number for the plugs. NGK was also used on some years, and I have NGK BKR5EGP in both of mine.
 
1LoudLS said:
be careful ordering from ebay...

I've seen a hundred sales where they listed the motor craft part # and said "OEM quality" and they were just regular cheap ass garbage Chinese coils. just make sure that they are genuine Motorcraft
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guess ill have to write to this company to make sure that the coils are genuine...is there anything specific regarding the coils thats lets me know there them?
 
OKOK.....update guys on my car!....well the mechanic finally got a chance to put the OEM coils and plugs on the car. The car is running much better and isnt showing those throttle body codes any longer. BUT NOW, i have 2 CODES showing. The codes are:
P2106 TAC Sytem-forced limited power
P1000 OBDII System check incomplete

What do you guys think is wrong now with the car? So far you guys have been the one to give me better luck with the car than anyone else soooooo????
 
P1000 is just because the codes were cleared (or the battery was disconnected). It will go away once you have driven around enough. (You won't really know that the other codes aren't coming back until this one goes away.)
P2106 isn't a great sign, as it is another ETC failsafe code. Do you know if the codes were cleared after all the work was done?
 
joegr said:
P1000 is just because the codes were cleared (or the battery was disconnected). It will go away once you have driven around enough. (You won't really know that the other codes aren't coming back until this one goes away.)
P2106 isn't a great sign, as it is another ETC failsafe code. Do you know if the codes were cleared after all the work was done?
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yes sir, he cleared them twice.... I just spoke with him again and he told me he's going to actually take the car out for a little bit to see how it acts he really hasn't been driving it since all this working only driving it about a block radius so we'll see what happens
 
If it persists, it's possible that the previous coils have damaged the PCM. (Yes, this is a wild guess based on little information, but yours wouldn't be the first to have this happen.) If so, there is a PCM test and repair service that is a reasonable cost.
 
joegr said:
If it persists, it's possible that the previous coils have damaged the PCM. (Yes, this is a wild guess based on little information, but yours wouldn't be the first to have this happen.) If so, there is a PCM test and repair service that is a reasonable cost.
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how long should i i expect to see the action, or when it should be gone? and will it happen with regular use?? because im currently not driving the car much at all since its at the mechanics.....and in the past month its maybe moved 5 miles..
 
If it's still doing it, then you still have some problem. It could be the PCM, the throttle body (replaced already, I know), it could be noise from a coil (replaced already, I know), it could be bad wiring, or maybe even noise from another component (DCCV, anyone?). Honestly, you're at the point where you can guess and throw more parts at it, or you can find someone like I posted about that can truly scope it out and find the problem. Replacement of the coils/plugs solves this 9 times out of 10. Sadly, you may be #10. BTW, I have actually seen MAF problems cause an ETC failsafe. Wouldn't hurt to clean yours and look for any air/vacuum leaks.
 
joegr said:
If it's still doing it, then you still have some problem. It could be the PCM, the throttle body (replaced already, I know), it could be noise from a coil (replaced already, I know), it could be bad wiring, or maybe even noise from another component (DCCV, anyone?). Honestly, you're at the point where you can guess and throw more parts at it, or you can find someone like I posted about that can truly scope it out and find the problem. Replacement of the coils/plugs solves this 9 times out of 10. Sadly, you may be #10. BTW, I have actually seen MAF problems cause an ETC failsafe. Wouldn't hurt to clean yours and look for any air/vacuum leaks.
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ughhhh.....damm.....well on a side note, i technically replaced and then put back the original throttlebody...dont think that makes a difference though...
 
joegr said:
If it's still doing it, then you still have some problem. It could be the PCM, the throttle body (replaced already, I know), it could be noise from a coil (replaced already, I know), it could be bad wiring, or maybe even noise from another component (DCCV, anyone?). Honestly, you're at the point where you can guess and throw more parts at it, or you can find someone like I posted about that can truly scope it out and find the problem. Replacement of the coils/plugs solves this 9 times out of 10. Sadly, you may be #10. BTW, I have actually seen MAF problems cause an ETC failsafe. Wouldn't hurt to clean yours and look for any air/vacuum leaks.
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ughhhh.....damm.....well on a side note, i technically replaced and then put back the original throttlebody...dont think that makes a difference though...
 
quick update: unfortunately the car is still acting the same with the 2 codes still popping up. MY mechanic let the car run for a while yesterday and still the same. The car is running smoother with the OEM coils but still that fail safe mode is kicking in with the code P2106. Also during cold start up the car wouldn't recognize REVERSE as the first gear choice. My mechanic said that he would have to place the car in DRIVE first and the shift into REVERSE in order for the car to recognize the gear. Soooooo basically im at a lost for this car guys...i dont know exactly what to do next, and if its to reprogram the pcm, where do i go for that?? Or IFFF i have to find someone that can FULLY SCOPE out the car as referred to as above, who and where would that be?!?!? I really dont know what to do with this car at this moment other then sell the dam thing for whatever i can get!!!....ANY INFO OR SUGGESTIONS WELCOMED,,,,
 
Perhaps it is time to send the PCM off for testing and repair (not reprogramming). Otherwise, it could be a bad harness.
 
joegr said:
Perhaps it is time to send the PCM off for testing and repair (not reprogramming). Otherwise, it could be a bad harness.
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direction as to were i can get that done?? or is that the multiple auctions i saw on ebay about repairing a pcm, generally it was starting around 180 if i remember correctly.
 
lastonestandin said:
direction as to were i can get that done?? or is that the multiple auctions i saw on ebay about repairing a pcm, generally it was starting around 180 if i remember correctly.
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Try here... I believe this company comes highly recommended here.
 
LS4me said:
Try here... I believe this company comes highly recommended here.
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Thank you very much, appreciate it. Called them today and left a message that hopefully they contact me back on Monday. If everything checks out, should have the pcm sent out by Wednesday or Thursday.
 
LS4me said:
Try here... I believe this company comes highly recommended here.
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spoke to them today...they gave me good info, and the green light that they can get it repaired, so mechaninc will have it out car by morrow, and hopefully ill have in the mail by wed.... thanks again LS4me and joejr, guys have really helped and i appreciate.....and anyone else that has helped i this thread, thank you!
 
FRUSTRATED UPDATE: so yesterday I spoke with sia before I actually attempted to send out my PCM. I spoke with their rep name Mike which was the Lincoln technician that does the majority of Lincoln repairs. Mile was very informative and honest with me upfront regarding his luck with attempting to repair these pcm's wit P2100 codes...he basically told me that if the car was having hard shifting issues or misfire issues those wuere things that he can possible repair on the pcm. As for the fail safe P2100 codes he confided with me that he has virtually had no luck ultimately getting rid of that code/problem and me sending my pcm will just end with him refunding me in the future lol... he explained to me that what he is capable of repairing in the pcm in his experience with this code, doesnt clear it and that it is something on the base of the board that he cant really repair....alllll meaning that i have to basically get a new/certified used PCM.....F*****K!!! I thanked him for his honestly and kindness, and did a quick search for pcms for sale on ebay.....from just making a couple quick calls i found out that im looking at possibly 500 for a pcm that will be programmed for my car, and then once it gets here, i will have to have a locksmith program the keys.....DAMMMIT!!!! So last night i put the car up on Craigslist again for 3500 or best offer....kinda frustrated with this car guys....its a beautiful car dont get me wrong, but guys this laundry list of issues related to these cars is unreal!! Does anyone have a better lead for certified used pcm's? Does any of this sound like something someone has encountered on this site LS4ME or joejr?
 
O Reilly's wants 250 bucks for one. The Lincoln dealer can handle the keys as well as the PCM. Can't blame you for wanting to sell, but it won't sell if it's not running correctly unless you plan to sell it as a parts car. 500 for the repair, or 500 for the entire car.
 
i would love to fix the car for another 500, but the LAST 500 on the OEM coils and plugs WERE SUPPOSE TO WORK....LOL....just venting guys, sorry....
 
Telco said:
O Reilly's wants 250 bucks for one. The Lincoln dealer can handle the keys as well as the PCM. Can't blame you for wanting to sell, but it won't sell if it's not running correctly unless you plan to sell it as a parts car. 500 for the repair, or 500 for the entire car.
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Telco im a little confused can you help me???...you said that O Reillys wants 250-255 for one, and when i looked at that link, it says they need the vin number which means they are going to program it correct?? But then you say the Lincoln dealer can handle the keys as well as the PCM..?!?! huh??? and wouldnt i have to get the car towed over to a Lincoln dealer, if i can even find one around here, to "handle" the keys and PCM or am able to take them separate?!?! Little lost...

As for wanting to sell it, i still am regardless...i mean the car runs well once its warm, but at first starts it just acts weird...had a couple people text me about it so far, but all basically trying to low ball me 2500 for the car...dam i know they are trouble but that is close to 2500 loss for me with this car IF I EVEN SOLD it as 2500...3500 is the lowest i can do lol..
 
no they are not going to program it, as they dont have the cluster and your keys so they can not program it...

they want the VIN so that they car check and make sure they are getting you a compatible module.



and by "handling" the keys for you, he is referring to the process of having the PCM and the cluster married along with (at least) two keys. this is the whole programming thing. it all has to be in the car to be done, and the car wont start until it is done (so the car would need to be towed where it was being done, unless you have a good locksmith who has the proper equipment come out and do it


lastonestandin said:
if i can even find one around here, to "handle" the keys and PCM
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every Ford or Lincoln dealer can and will do this for you, for a fee.
 
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