HyeLifeLS
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The LS's handling is great, no questions.
Fla02LS said:I guess we've pushed some buttons, which is fine. Nobody said being different isnt ok. Dude's first post was asking what performance parts were available for the V6...which is very very slim. So we have stated the reality that with the resources currently available there isnt much to be done with a V6 LS. If its a life long dream to make a 2000 V6 LS that can beat a M5 then go for it. If dude has the $20,000 then thats cool, but with cars and performance there is limits to what money can produce if he keeps the stock 3.0 V6. When you start talking engine swaps then you are getting into waaay more than just putting a new engine in. I am sure someone like Chip Foose could take the body from an LS and completely match a whole new engine,drivetrain,pcm controls and the million little things to have a LS that can produce tons of horsepower and still function. Look at what Quik has gone thru and he still has yet to turn the key and have it work, and if/when it works who knows what kind of power and drivability it will have. I applaud anyone who wants to take on a new task but there needs to be a reality check to begin with. I can respect quik because he is getting his hands dirty. Paying someone to "make" a car for you isnt nearly as respectable.
HyeLifeLS said:My man, the LS is too far from being a 540i winner, any LS, even 06 V8 you can't compare with a 540i in any performance category, even if some magazine (only one) came up with only 0.01g of grip over the 540i, doesn't mean that that car is gonna win in other categories, such as, braking, accelerating and others.
Lincoln LS : Accolades - The 2003 Lincoln LS has better handling performance than the BMW 540i
Lincoln LS V8 outshines BMW 540i in recent AMCI handling performance tests*
We're excited to announce that the Lincoln LS V8 outperformed the BMW 540i in recent handling performance tests.* The tests were conducted by Automotive Marketing Consultants Incorporated (AMCI), an independent testing firm that mimics actual driving conditions to accurately compare automobile performance. They compared the handling performance of the 2003 Lincoln LS V8 and the 2003 BMW 540i.
The results? The Lincoln LS V8 out cornered, out slalomed and had better handling performance than the BMW 540i on both wet and dry pavements.
What's behind this performance? The LS V8's rear-wheel drive, Formula 1 inspired sport-tuned suspension and near 50/50 weight distribution combine to provide excellent road grip and steering control. And the all-speed traction control and speed-sensitive, rack-and-pinion ZF steering system work together to ensure controlled braking, accelerating and cornering in various pavement conditions and emergency driving situations.
AMCI also measured acceleration performance. We always knew the LS V8 was fast, but how about 0-60 mph in 6.42 seconds*? The available 280-horsepower V8 engine with variable cam timing and electronic throttle control guarantees a thrilling performance.
With results like these, it's no wonder the new Lincoln LS is the driver's luxury car.
*AMCI-certified testing of the 2003 Lincoln LS V8 and 2003 BMW 540i.
ridinprettyls said:I dont think the LS was built to compete with the beamer in regards to performace...I think they wanted to attract people with a not so much of a "grandpa" lincoln and get into the younger crowd. Everytime I tell someone I own a lincoln, they automatically think I drive A. my dads car or B. my grandpas car. They wanted to steal people away from the BMW and Mercedes not for performances reasons, but for appearances. Why did we buy the LS? I would bet most of us would say because its different than everyone elses beamer and benz. Most didnt buy it for the power and handling.
ridinprettyls said:I dont think the LS was built to compete with the beamer in regards to performace...I think they wanted to attract people with a not so much of a "grandpa" lincoln and get into the younger crowd. Everytime I tell someone I own a lincoln, they automatically think I drive A. my dads car or B. my grandpas car. They wanted to steal people away from the BMW and Mercedes not for performances reasons, but for appearances. Why did we buy the LS? I would bet most of us would say because its different than everyone elses beamer and benz. Most didnt buy it for the power and handling.
This commercial :BeerLS4me said:I don't remember the testing company, but Lincoln did a commercial using the results.
Lewallen said:ok the 3.0 liter V6 in an LS is a 3.0 liter V6 in a Mustang, so if you can find parts for the Mustang then they would be the same for the LS. Granted that there will more than likely be some bracket mods because under the hood an LS and a Mustang are setup differently but as far as engines go remember Ford Makes Lincoln and Ford Repairs Lincoln, so the only logical anwser is that Ford will upgrade Lincoln. Any Questions? lewallen@cableone.net
Yep...bad example dude. Thats like saying all vodka is the same, they all use the same processes and ingredients. There is definately differences between brands.HyeLifeLS said:Mustang uses a different V6, it is a 12 valve 4.0 V6 engine not 24 valve Duratec that goes in the LS. The mustang V6 has the same power as the 00-01 LS V6 (210), but a lot more torque 240lb vs 205lb in the LS. The LS V6 is using the same engine as taurus, Jag X-type 3.0, jag S-type 3.0, the new Ford Fusion/Mercury Milan/Lincoln Zephir and some other Ford cars but not the Mustang.
an independent testing firm that mimics actual driving conditions to accurately compare automobile performance
jokken said:here is my 2 cents.
quick ls i read that ad you posted a while back but I kinda question it:
is this really a viable test? what is it like computer simulated driving? Or is it just taking corners at normal speeds and doing the speed limits etc?
Fla02LS said:Yep...bad example dude. Thats like saying all vodka is the same, they all use the same processes and ingredients. There is definately differences between brands.
i was refering to the 00' mustang V6 3.0 this info isnt just my opinion ive talked to the ford tech guys at my local dealership they say if you can find parts for that year they will work with the ls. i wasnt talking about cams pistons and rings i was talking more about the intake, exhaust, and maybe even turbo or super.HyeLifeLS said:Mustang uses a different V6, it is a 12 valve 4.0 V6 engine not 24 valve Duratec that goes in the LS. The mustang V6 has the same power as the 00-01 LS V6 (210), but a lot more torque 240lb vs 205lb in the LS. The LS V6 is using the same engine as taurus, Jag X-type 3.0, jag S-type 3.0, the new Ford Fusion/Mercury Milan/Lincoln Zephir and some other Ford cars but not the Mustang.
Lewallen said:i was refering to the 00' mustang V6 3.0 this info isnt just my opinion ive talked to the ford tech guys at my local dealership they say if you can find parts for that year they will work with the ls. i wasnt talking about cams pistons and rings i was talking more about the intake, exhaust, and maybe even turbo or super.
The 2000 Mustang has a 3.8 V6.