joegr
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elephantrider
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new hugo burgers !!!
Meat Distributor Sued After Worker Killed in Running Blender.
OREGON CITY, Ore. — Mar 3, 2015, 11:14 AM ET
The family of a cleaning worker who was killed when he fell into a running industrial meat blender at an Oregon plant is suing the meat distributor for $5 million.
The Oregonian reports (http://is.gd/dCMPuF ) that the lawsuit filed last week in Clackamas County Circuit Court accused Interstate Meat Distributors of failing to follow safety procedures.
The 41-year-old man, Hugo Avalos-Chanon of Portland, was working for a cleaning contractor in April 2013 when the machine turned on and he was pulled into the equipment legs first. There were no eyewitnesses, but fellow workers heard his screams.
The president of Interstate Meat Distributors, Darrin Hoy, has been asked by phone and email to comment on the lawsuit.
The company grinds and packages hamburger for commercial customers in Oregon and southwest Washington.
all you oregonians, be careful on your next cook out.
Meat Distributor Sued After Worker Killed in Running Blender.
OREGON CITY, Ore. — Mar 3, 2015, 11:14 AM ET
The family of a cleaning worker who was killed when he fell into a running industrial meat blender at an Oregon plant is suing the meat distributor for $5 million.
The Oregonian reports (http://is.gd/dCMPuF ) that the lawsuit filed last week in Clackamas County Circuit Court accused Interstate Meat Distributors of failing to follow safety procedures.
The 41-year-old man, Hugo Avalos-Chanon of Portland, was working for a cleaning contractor in April 2013 when the machine turned on and he was pulled into the equipment legs first. There were no eyewitnesses, but fellow workers heard his screams.
The president of Interstate Meat Distributors, Darrin Hoy, has been asked by phone and email to comment on the lawsuit.
The company grinds and packages hamburger for commercial customers in Oregon and southwest Washington.
all you oregonians, be careful on your next cook out.
FDR
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Its all good because the more time its written out, hopefully, the more people understand the problem before circlejerking about how much better they can see with 10000k HIDs , not giving a damn about other drivers.
Telco
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Telco
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If you want to have crisp, clear light with regular headlights, just wire them directly off the battery. If you measure the voltage output at the headlights you will find they run at about 8.5 volts because the OEMs run headlight power through the switch. Use the switch as a relay control instead and the headlights will make their full output. The only downsides are there will be more heat involved and I don't know how that will affect the headlight housing, and the bulbs will burn out faster.
I did this on a 96 Tahoe that I converted to sealed beams (and don't have pics of, damnit) and the headlights were bright enough that the low beams were good for 90MPH. When the high beams were on you could see the end of every road. Tulsa is laid out in 1 mile grids even when you get out of the city area, and in the country with the highs on I could be parked at one stop sign with the brights on and I could clearly see the stop sign at the next intersection 1 mile away. On top of that, I won every single high beam fight. Ran Sylvania superwhite bulbs, and it was like daytime in front of me.
FDR
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None of my OBDII cars run headlight power through the switch... 8.5 volts is an insane drop, even for a switch.
joegr
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I think that you are the one who needs to measure the voltage at the LS headlights...
joegr
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Me either. Maybe it's a GM thing?
1LoudLS
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if you have less than 12-14 volts at the headlight, then you have a major wiring problem...
some older GMs do have very heavy wiring at the switch, so I would assume that using a relay wasn't a priority for them lol, but... no matter what the car, if the cars system runs at 12v, then there will be 12v AT the headlight with the one exception of the DRL system giving reduced power to the main headlight bulb.
a switch is a switch, and as long as its working properly, it will not have a significant voltage drop.
some older GMs do have very heavy wiring at the switch, so I would assume that using a relay wasn't a priority for them lol, but... no matter what the car, if the cars system runs at 12v, then there will be 12v AT the headlight with the one exception of the DRL system giving reduced power to the main headlight bulb.
a switch is a switch, and as long as its working properly, it will not have a significant voltage drop.
Telco
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It may have been a GM thing. For some reason they ran the headlights off 16 or 18ga wire through the switch. The headlight switch would get hot enough to cook eggs on. I did measure the voltage before that job and due to the span the wiring went the voltage drop was pretty deep. And, my Tahoe was an OBD2 vehicle. First year for GM full size SUVs, in fact. GM didn't use PCM triggering for headlights until the GMT800 body, which for the full size SUV was 2001.
I have no interest in measuring the voltage on an LS. Simply offering up my past experiences in the automotive world as possible alternative solutions for others to use.
I have no interest in measuring the voltage on an LS. Simply offering up my past experiences in the automotive world as possible alternative solutions for others to use.
FDR
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If a 55w-65w bulb has a resistance of ~2.2-2.6 Ohms, and a mixture of a poor switches, undersized wire, and poor connections, if they could add up to a relatively high 1 Ohm resistance, that would account for the ~35% voltage drop. The drop across each resistance is proportional to the total resistance of the series.
Still seems waaaay too high, but I'll be glad to measure the V-in and the V-d when it's no longer <30 degrees.
Anyway, I didn't mean OBD automatically meant PCM-controlled, nor that OBD implied relays (... though it practically should from a design standpoint). I just wanted to exclude my Mustangs since I don't actually know how they're wired, and the more I think about how the entire fuse box has 6 fuses and no relays, the more I assume it's powered through the switch directly.
Still seems waaaay too high, but I'll be glad to measure the V-in and the V-d when it's no longer <30 degrees.
Anyway, I didn't mean OBD automatically meant PCM-controlled, nor that OBD implied relays (... though it practically should from a design standpoint). I just wanted to exclude my Mustangs since I don't actually know how they're wired, and the more I think about how the entire fuse box has 6 fuses and no relays, the more I assume it's powered through the switch directly.
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Yea... Or it's a Craolla!!!!!!!
It's NOT a Corolla, LOL.
Sorry about the blur-outs but some things one should not post on the interweb, I'm sure you can understand.
This is a temporary unit they have me in until the brand new International's come in this month, which will be all spec'd out and decal-ed up.
First trip out down south with this thing and I get a flat on the most right rear outside, in Virginia. few hours later they had me up and running again.
I actually made two trips into the US for them, first one was down to Georgia and back,
second one was to Allentown & Fredericksburg PA and back home.
Maxed out my allowable hours for the week. Lots of mile$ first trip out.
bit of rest and back at it.
elephantrider
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nice pete for sure ! the international will be head and shoulders better, i'd think.
RigsLS
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Thanks, very impressed with Peterbilt's attempt to capture market share with an addition of built-in inverters w/ 110 volt outlets throughout the bunk, including also an impressive 10" sub-box under the bed complementing the 6 speaker concert audio system. Along with an APU, heater & clean idle, it's a great machine.
Has this mode on it during sleep, when needed, will self start/stop to keep coolant and battery levels up.
Has this mode on it during sleep, when needed, will self start/stop to keep coolant and battery levels up.
elephantrider
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well, it sure beats the kenworth 500 series concab i used to drive at haliburton ! i used to keep
a plank behind the seats so i could catch a nap while we were waiting for the drill operator
to be ready for us. that was um, uncomfy, to say the least
a plank behind the seats so i could catch a nap while we were waiting for the drill operator
to be ready for us. that was um, uncomfy, to say the least
FDR
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I've noticed LvC is about Gen 2 problems, while the Facebook group is about Gen 1 problems.
Bullschmidt
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The average age/income level/employment status is quite different on here too. This site has been used by adults (mostly) for a decade. That Facebook group is a bunch of plastidip animals with cars they bought for $2,000.
You really don't like plastidip I'm finding. LOL
I find there is a good mix of people on FB. I enjoy some of the back and forth with some of the members. It's also nice helping out someone else with the bit of knowledge that I have gained because of the people here on LVC. Plus.....who doesn't like a good ole strut vs. coil over shock FB brawl every once in awhile. :F
elephantrider
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speaking of struts. i need to get an extra set of coil packs for the ls.
joegr
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Well played...
De-marko
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:shifty: I know these must be inside jokes. Did I miss an arguement?
elephantrider
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I find it absolutely maddening when people use incorrect terms for things. So I will usually just slip in with a correction without judgment. But there were a couple of guys that were so called career mechanics that wanted to argue that the LS didn't use shocks. They bulldogged me on FB that I should learn something about cars and how they paid tons of money for their wrench turning educations.
LSFrank came in and provided the same info I had. Just in a more organized and better versed manner. In turn proving these DBs wrong.
So LSFrank has decided there is a trifecta of things people call out by the wrong name/do ignorantly and incorrectly: struts, coil packs and HIDs in Halogen housings.
FDR
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That's a definite trend. However, there is a bias where legitimate FB questions are overrun by constant filtered/overexposed/instagrammed pictures of janked-out LSes. To many members there, it's just an image board with no interest in discussion beyond compliments on how "unique" their car is.
You know how occasionally new members ask about LS struts and coil packs, then get corrected, and sometimes get up in arms about how it doesn't matter because the parts guy still knows what they mean?
Facebook members are arguably worse about this "issue". It happens more frequently. There tends to be more arrogance there as well. LvC takes time and commitment (relatively speaking) to make an account and post here, so users tend to have the intention of learning here. The Facebook group takes a single click and is just a photostream for some people.
FDR
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This makes me laugh. This also makes me sad. There's more than just those 3, but all I want in life is for people to do things correctly AND NOT EFFING GET BLINDED BY BROTRUCKS AND HONDA SH*TVICS WITH GHOST BLUE 8000K HIDS