God is Only a Theory

And before anything possibly changes again... let's go back and visit some other posts By Don. (quoted word for word)

Post #290, (and the ONLY post Don answered me with a "NO"):

"Quote 04:' Next question:

Do you believe that the Book of Revelation is told in "linear" event form? I.E. ,,,, Does the book of Revelation mention events in the order they actually happen?

Answer: NO
Then to your belief that the Jews are favored: You said the woman( in truth God's heavenly organization) is the Jews? Not even close. THEY rejected Jesus and killed him. `You did not discern the hour of your being inspected' as Jesus told them and `LOOK! Your house (temple) is abandoned to you.'
don-ohio :)^)"


Post # 304:

"Neither Moses nor Elijah or Enoch went to Heaven.They died. They are all awaiting resurrection into the cleansed Earth. Elijah wrote a letter after his `so-called' death and ascension into Heaven. Enoch was taken in death,we figure because the wickedness was closing in and so God `took' him mercifully. It says they all died. Enoch was taken so as not to see death.
JESUS said NO ONE has ascended into heaven save He that DESCENDED.................so you believe Jesus lies. You can't have it both ways."


Post # 310:

"All your posting and typing does not change Bible facts,04. Now just to SHOW how much you can be mistaken when you discount Jesus's words that are at John 3:13 'NO man has ascended to heaven but he that descended', we'll take the Elijah example.
A number of years AFTER his ascension in the windstorm, in his new assignment after giving his appointment to ELISHA, he WROTE A LETTER to wicked King Jehoram of Yahweh's condemnation, which is fulfilled shortly thereafter. 2 Chron.21:12-15.
Remember also that Elisha did not mourn Elijah at the windstorm incident. The heavens he went up to were just like the heavens the birds fly in. You MUST BELIEVE Jesus's words at John 3:13 and quit calling Bible students HERETICS,04. Jesus never said anything untrue.
don-ohio :)^) "
 
So... One last time for the question Don:

" Do you believe that 1st Kings, 2nd Kings, 1st Chronicles, and 2nd Chronicles overlap each other...or are all of those Books of the Bible in a linear ,(chonological), timeline of history???????????????????????????"
 
Quote 04:`And of course now folks,,, before he gets caught... Don jumps off line.'

I can't stay on here when I'm at work,son. I get paid 12 hrs. to work here this week on night shift. I'll answer you when I get home. Gotta go make the doughnuts! don-ohio :)^)
 
Quote 04 question:`" Do you believe that 1st Kings, 2nd Kings, 1st Chronicles, and 2nd Chronicles overlap each other...or are all of those Books of the Bible in a linear ,(chonological), timeline of history?'

I am now at home. If you mean does Chronicles run AFTER Kings, then NO,it doesn't.It gives events in order just as Kings does, and fills in details not given in Kings. Ezra is credited for writing Chronicles.
So if you have Kings,it is like Matthew,and Chronicles is like Luke, covering basically the same period of the Kings of Israel and Judah,but each account supplying details the other may not. don-ohio :)^)
 
Quote 04: `So again... what LS4 said was correct!!!

AGAIN... do you really know what you believe??????[/QUOTE]

My answer : I stated earlier proof that God's name and the Tetragrammaton are the same. Don't you believe SCRIPTURE?
Here it is AGAIN for anyone that missed it.

Answer to LS4me in POST #334: 'The tetragrammaton isn't a name? It appears one of its 6,961 times at Isaiah 42:8 `I am Yahweh. That is my NAME and to NO ONE ELSE will I give my glory.....'
Now pay particular attention to Isaiah 54:5 use of God's name(Tetragrammaton deleted in favor of LORD by KJ Bible translators). `For your Grand Maker is your husbandly owner,Yahweh of armies BEING HIS NAME.'

don-ohio :)^)
 
The Tetragrammaton(Greek TETRA meaning four,and GRAMMA meaning LETTER) is represented in the oldest Hebrew manuscripts as 4 consonants,letters, and may be translated into English as YHWH or YHVH.
Remember,the substitution of GOD or LORD is NOT the Tetragrammaton,but a deletion and replacement of it. Just the same as if you took the Hebrew consonants of Joshua(Yeshua) and deleted them calling Joshua `Lord' or `Leader' of Israel.
These guys don't like it, but Yahweh wants His name known as shown in Ezekiel chapter 6,verses 7,10,13,14 then in Chapter 7 verses 4 and 27. This is God's name appearing here as the Tetragrammaton,YHWH.
So as it says,`they WILL HAVE TO KNOW THAT I AM YAHWEH.' You're not gonna hear it from these guys though.
don-ohio :)^)
 
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jerrym3 said:
Believe or don't believe. Your choice.

Here's the real truth:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zhRzORqNa0E&list=RDzhRzORqNa0E#t=0
Click to expand...

This past year, I've lost three friends. One was my best buddy when I was in my late teens/early 20's; one I worked and car pooled with for 17 years; and one that I worked with managing a Telecommunications Managers association.

By chance, I found this song, and it just stuck with me. I guess timing is everything.

Lyrics to "Time"

Time, flowing like a river
Time, beckoning me
Who knows when we shall meet again
If ever
But time
Keeps flowing like a river
To the sea

Goodbye my love,
Maybe for forever
Goodbye my love,
The tide waits for me
Who knows when we shall meet again
If ever
But time
Keeps flowing like a river (on and on)
To the sea, to the sea

Till it's gone forever
Gone forever
Gone forevermore

Goodbye my friends,
Maybe forever
Goodbye my friends,
The stars wait for me
Who knows where we shall meet again
If ever
But time
Keeps flowing like a river (on and on)
To the sea, to the sea
 
Jerry,

I can sympathize. I've lost 2 sets of parents, buried a very close high school buddy, and helped a few friends bury their parents.

You might also like Kansas - "Dust in the Wind", if I didn't mention it already. There's a few others too,,, but they escape me at the moment.
 
Quote Don:

"I can't stay on here when I'm at work,son. I get paid 12 hrs. to work here this week on night shift. I'll answer you when I get home. Gotta go make the doughnuts! don-ohio :)^)"

Sorry Don,,, I apologize. At least let me know though,,, and that you'll get back to me... so I don't think you have jumped ship.

I'll get back to the Tetragrammaton issue later... but for now the cows did come home,,, but not about John 3:13.

I am in NO WAY calling Christ a liar... in John 3:13,,, or anywhere else. I never will call Christ a liar. However,,, if a set of Scriptures don't make sense... then that is because they are not understood in the proper contex of their meaning. My difference with you for now... is about Elijah... and I am pretty sure that I can prove that Elijah was taken up by God,,, and was never heard from again for many centuries... or more.
 
Quote Don:

"I am now at home. If you mean does Chronicles run AFTER Kings, then NO,it doesn't.It gives events in order just as Kings does, and fills in details not given in Kings. Ezra is credited for writing Chronicles."

Ok then. So if I were to say that you believe that Kings and Chronicles overlap each other,,, while still having linear timelines and Chronolgy within each of them... ,,, ... would that be a proper understanding on my part,,, of what you are saying???????????

I'm trying to make sure that you and I are on the same page,,, before I continue.
 
Here ya go Jerry:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tH2w6Oxx0kQ

Lyrics... compliments of Google Play:

Lyrics

I close my eyes only for a moment, and the moment's gone
All my dreams pass before my eyes, a curiosity


Dust in the wind, all they are is dust in the wind


Same old song, just a drop of water in an endless sea
All we do crumbles to the ground, though we refuse to see


Dust in the wind, all we are is dust in the wind


Now, don't hang on, nothing lasts forever but the earth and sky
It slips away, and all your money won't another minute buy


Dust in the wind, all we are is dust in the wind (all we are is dust in the wind)
Dust in the wind (everything is dust in the wind), everything is dust in the wind (the wind)



I think a song I posted before,,, was "Pine Box' by Rossington-Collins, (formerly Skynard).
 
Speaking of Skynyrd... one of my favorite songs is "Simple Man". This video has them up in years,,, so it had to be just before the plane crash. Or it could be Johnny Van Zant after the plane crash. Not sure. Anyway...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHQ_aTjXObs

Lyrics, (again compliments of Google Play):

Lyrics

Mama told me when I was young
"Come sit beside me, my only son
And listen closely to what I say
And if you do this it'll help you some sunny day"


"Oh, take your time, don't live too fast
Troubles will come and they will pass
You'll find a woman and you'll find love
And don't forget, son, there is someone up above"


"And be a simple kind of man
Oh, be something you love and understand
Baby be a simple kind of man
Oh, won't you do this for me, son, if you can"


"Forget your lust for the rich man's gold
All that you need is in your soul
And you can do this, oh baby, if you try
All that I want for you, my son, is to be satisfied"


"And be a simple kind of man
Oh, be something you love and understand
Baby be a simple kind of man
Oh, won't you do this for me, son, if you can"


Oh yes, I will


"Boy, don't you worry, you'll find yourself
Follow your heart and nothing else
And you can do this, oh baby, if you try
All that I want for you, my son, is to be satisfied"


"And be a simple kind of man
Oh, be something you love and understand
Baby be a simple kind of man
Oh, won't you do this for me, son, if you can"


Baby, be a simple, really simple man
Oh, be something you love and understand
 
Quote 04: If a set of scriptures doesn't make sense. `then that is because they are not understood in the proper contex of their meaning.'

Answer: This statement at John 3:13 is NOT `a set of scriptures'. It is a statement of fact,just as the Statement he made when he said `the meek shall inherit the earth' or `no man has seen God at any time'. So if you say Jesus is wrong, then you say he lies..........because we KNOW he knows of what he speaks.
Elijah was moved by the whirlwind into a new assignment..........JUDAH. He was no longer in Elisha's territory,the ten tribe kingdom. So he counseled the King of Judah as to his wickedness. don-ohio :)^)
 
04_Sport_LS said:
Jerry,

I can sympathize. I've lost 2 sets of parents, buried a very close high school buddy, and helped a few friends bury their parents.

You might also like Kansas - "Dust in the Wind", if I didn't mention it already. There's a few others too,,, but they escape me at the moment.
Click to expand...

Very familiar with that song. It's a classic.
 
John 3:13 is one verse in the whole Bible. Separate it from the rest of John... and the rest of Scripture,,, and a person can make it mean just about anything they want. I am NOT saying Jesus is wrong. I am saying YOU are wrong in your interpretation of Scripture. But I am not contending John 3:13 at the moment.

And once again... you haven't answered my question.

Quote myself in post #361:

"Ok then. So if I were to say that you believe that Kings and Chronicles overlap each other,,, while still having linear timelines and Chronolgy within each of them... ,,, ... would that be a proper understanding on my part,,, of what you are saying???????????

I'm trying to make sure that you and I are on the same page,,, before I continue."
 
Quote Jerry:

"Very familiar with that song. It's a classic."

Yes it is... and was also a song a close friend of mine wanted played at her mom's funeral. The story behind my friends mom's funeral,,, was a bit amazing itself. My friends mom died pretty much destitute,,, and my friend had no money to bury her mom. She had texted me,,, and I was in the ICU with her, (along with other friends and family), when her mom died. Afterwards, in one of the small rooms outside the ICU,,, some of the distant family members were talking about "preparation" for the body... and I could see that my friend was lost and confused.

Since I had been there before... I took the bull by the horns,,, and tried to get help from a few churches to cover the funeral and burial. Most met me with reluctance and skepticism. Part of the problem was,,, that in my urgency of the problem... I wasn't listening to God on where I should go for assistance. In the end... I went where I needed to,,, and the church I was resisting was tied to a funeral home that reduced expenses enough... that the church would cover most of the expenses. My own church at the time,,, covered part of the grave digging and did the funeral service free of charge. And even though I was laid off work,,, I put in $500 of my own money to cover the rest.

The sad part is,,, that the "person of the cloth" that did the funeral service, (not affliliated with my church)... was chasing people around at the the dinner afterwards,,, asking people for his $100 for doing the service. I actually did part of the eulogy,because I knew the family well enough, (more on that later)... while the "person of the cloth knew NOTHING about the family.

In the end... my friends mom got a proper burial... and as conversations have progressed with that friend,,, she has understood that God was in the works at that time... and I was just an instrument willing to be used by God to facilitate the means to an end.
 
So there you go Don. Another story I hope you learned something from. Instead of knocking on doors... or trying to proselytize someone... why don't you actually help out another person in need!!!

And while I'm at it... don't call me "son" anymore. There's only about 14 years between us. So unless you started at an early age with children,,, you have no right to call me son. Moreover... I most likely have an "older soul" than you do. If you want to prove me wrong,,, then share some of your own life stories. Maybe you'll earn a little credibility in this thread if you do so.
 
So back to the eulogy of my friends mom's funeral service. This needs a bit of intro. I was working things out about the funeral service with my friends step sister,,, at the same time I was supposed to be doing a Bible study with 3 other friends. One was Catholic, another was Church of God, while the other was Episcopalian. I was non- denominational at the time... but was raised Presbyterian,,, went to a Catholic school for 3 years,,, attended a Baptist church in my late teens... and during the Catholic time,,, visited a Jewish Synagogue, (that was an interesting Q&A session).

Anyway... as I was working out funeral details with my friends step sister... the guys came in the house,,, and I told them to start without me. I got back to them about 20 minutes later... only to get sucked into a lively discussion. There was alot of table pounding and yelling,,, but in the end we all said a prayer to God to open our eyes to the TRUTH. Part of the eulogy I gave at my friends mom's funeral service... talks about that. I still have it:

And since LVC won't let me upload a scan... I'll take a picture of it.
 
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